- The speakers discuss various topics including a streaming platform called Unlonely, a decentralized Twitch-like platform, and crypto betting on platforms like Twitch and flights.
- They mention a smart contract exploit on the Unlonely platform and the lack of understanding about its product.
- The conversation also touches on the idea of prediction markets for various things like weather and flight delays.
- The guest, DCFGod, introduces himself as a DeFi-focused individual and talks about his involvement in various crypto projects.

- The speaker is a supporter of VTuber avatars and finds them more engaging than traditional profile pictures in video calls.
- Anatta has received compliments for their avatars and has added features like breeding and Chibis to their platform.
- The Anatta team has done a good job keeping their artists employed and excited about creating content.
- The Anatta community remains active and productive despite market challenges.
- Anatta is introducing holiday-themed clothing and allowing users to change their avatars' wardrobe while still maintaining rarity.
- Anatta is also creating a 3D world for users to explore and interact with their avatars.
- The speaker suggests the possibility of a clothing store or mall where users can acquire different outfits for their avatars.
- The speaker expresses interest in using specific clothing for their avatar and asks about the possibility of implementing this feature.
- The speaker suggests the idea of a clothing store with free downloads to encourage adoption of Anatta avatars.

- The main concern is the adoption of Anada, so the goal is to make it as accessible as possible.
- Everything created by the team is free, including PFP, 2.0, Chibi, and 3D VRM.
- The team has $5 million in the treasury to continue creating free stuff.
- One roadblock for crypto users is the cost, but the current floor price is cheaper than creating an Anada from scratch.
- Non-crypto users face roadblocks due to the complexity of crypto and NFTs.
- One solution being considered is a clear character creator where users can generate 3D VRMs without owning the NFT.
- The idea is to create a website where users can pay a small amount for a randomly generated 3D model using Anada traits.
- The funds from these purchases would go into the Anada treasury for marketing and brand growth.
- Anada aims to be a one-stop shop for creating avatars, 3D models, and other assets.
- The Anada DAO encourages active discussion and involvement from holders.
- The team is continuously shipping new features and updates, including a pet system for Anada holders.
- Pets in Anada will be deeply ingrained in the NFT itself and can be interacted with in various ways.

- The speaker discusses their love for animals and pets, particularly dogs, and how they are like an extension of oneself.
- They mention a game called Castle Crashers and how they enjoyed acquiring pets in the game.
- They express excitement about the addition of pet-like characters to the Anada NFT project.
- The speaker explains that these pets will be attached to the existing NFTs, rather than being separate NFTs.
- The goal is to provide as much value as possible within one NFT, eliminating the need for multiple NFTs and making it easier to use.
- The speaker discusses the upcoming addition of 3D elements and a 3D studio to the Anada project.
- They emphasize that Anada NFTs are comprehensive and versatile, offering high utility and value.
- The speaker contrasts Anada with other NFT projects that only release separate collections without much innovation.
- They highlight the complete nature of Anada NFTs and how they can be used to enhance one's digital identity.
- The speaker encourages people to reach out to the Anada team for assistance in building their identity around their NFT.
- They emphasize that Anada NFTs should be seen as a long-term investment in one's identity, rather than something to be sold later.
- The speaker concludes by mentioning the availability of Anadas outside of the crypto space.

- The Anadas project started with a focus on crypto users, providing a better identity and video call capabilities.
- They have seen adoption within the crypto community, but are looking to explore other avenues for growth.
- They have started sponsoring micro streamers on Twitch to use Anadas while gaming, hoping to bring in new audiences.
- They are also planning to release a character creator for 3D models and VTubers to attract more users outside of crypto.
- The PFPs (profile pictures) in Anadas are unique and hand-drawn by different artists, making it a unique collection of art.
- They are planning to release pets and VRM (Virtual Reality Model) capabilities in the future.
- They have a 3D world launching soon where holders can have rooms and nightclubs to use their 3D models in.
- They are also working on a big swag launch for merchandise.

- The company has sent out a mini Swag box to some active holders for free and is working on a high-quality piece of merchandise for all holders.
- The company is in talks with other projects for collaborations and is considering creating Christmas outfits.
- The founder emphasizes the need for a dedicated group to lay the groundwork and establish the project's vision before community members start participating.
- The founder discusses the idea of creating a content interface similar to VTube Studio to eliminate the need for a separate app.
- The cost and logistics of building an app are discussed, and the possibility of white labeling is explored.
- The founder suggests a revenue model where collections pay to host and manage a Chrome extension in the company's brand.
- The potential for partnerships and collaborations is discussed, with a focus on maintaining the company's aesthetic and brand identity.

- The conversation covered topics such as Anatta and NFTs
- The host prefers casual conversations rather than focusing on making money
- The founder of Anatta was invited to discuss their product and its features
- The conversation mentioned different modes in Anatta and the Vtuber Studio
- The host suggested creating a more tailored experience for Anatta users
- The conversation ended with an invitation for the founder to join future streams

- The conversation discusses various topics including the Unlonely streaming platform, decentralized platforms, and crypto betting on platforms like Twitch and flights.
- The guest, DCFGod, introduces himself as a DeFi-focused individual and talks about his involvement in various crypto projects.
- The Anatta team has received compliments for their avatars and has added features like breeding and Chibis to their platform.
- Anatta is introducing holiday-themed clothing and a 3D world for users to explore and interact with their avatars.
- The team is focused on making Anada as accessible as possible and is considering a clear character creator for generating 3D models without owning the NFT.
- Anada aims to be a one-stop shop for creating avatars, 3D models, and other assets.
- The team is continuously shipping new features and updates, including a pet system for Anada holders.
- The speaker discusses their love for animals and pets and expresses excitement about the addition of pet-like characters to the Anada NFT project.
- Anada NFTs are comprehensive and versatile, offering high utility and value.
- The Anada project is exploring avenues for growth outside of the crypto space, including sponsoring micro streamers on Twitch.
- They are planning to release a character creator for 3D models and VTubers to attract more users outside of crypto.
- The company is also working on launching a 3D world, merchandise, and collaborations with other projects.
- The founder emphasizes the need for a dedicated group to establish the project's vision before community participation.
- The conversation covers Anatta and NFTs, with the host preferring casual conversations over focusing on making money.
- The founder of Anatta was invited to discuss their product and its features.
- The conversation ends with an invitation for the founder to join future streams.

October 25, 2023 - Episode #29 - ANATA STREAM! Today your terminally online hosts Cozy & DK are joined by DCF GOD, a notable founder, and co-creator of the vtuber's we use on stream, Anata. We go in depth on Anata use-cases, what they've got planned for the future, and a little background on DCF himself!

For you and then the diet and then cook 0.

So we're actually just choosing the best, the healthiest option.

It, for some reason, keeps having that, like, weird, connection thing where it just does not want to, Oh, yeah.

No only Unlonely app I'd never heard this Is it like tinder

It's like a it's like a it's like a Twitch.

It's like a web 3 streaming platform but the first groups that were doing it was doing like I don't know 1 of the reality dating shows where they would like watch 2 people do an internet date or something like this.

But like the founder was tweeting that, he's like, fuck paying, you know, Solidity devs more than 200k.

Dude, that wasn't even the part that got me.

Well, and I'm like, yeah, get the people that can take you down.

The people that can exploit your smart contracts, piss them off.

And then, yeah, and then some people, 1 lady came out and was like, hey, there's an exploit in your contract.

And he said it, and he's like, I don't care.

And then the next day they were using the same smart contracts that had an exploit in them.

Well, the smart contract researcher put out a large disclosure saying that I found this exploit, they're not going to fix it.

So I wouldn't recommend using their platform tonight.

I didn't get exploited because there was no funds in there to start with.

Yeah, no 1 wants to use this shit anyway.

That's like 1 thing that is has always been kind of missing because I don't think that we're at a point where you can compete with like I guess web 2 infrastructure in that sense when it comes to video content.

So like having a decentralized tWitch, kick, something like that, you see that there's like a want for with these content creators to keep bouncing from platform to platform because they're either being de-platformed or they're welcomed with open arms until that company reaches critical mass and they have to kind of tighten down on what type of content they're allowing on the platform and it's just this like hot potato game of people being kind of pushed out because eventually they don't fit whatever the norm is for that that medium that they're they're distributing content on so yeah I'd like to see something like that.

We thought Unlonely might be a cool 1 to try out.

And then like 3 days after I'd reached out, this like shit storm kicked off.

Yeah, they were like, I think they did some sort of betting.

I don't know if it was like during the live date, if they would like go on a second date or whatever, but something during the show, people could bet on things.

And that's what the use of the smart contract was for.

Yeah, I think Twitch, there was a time last bull market where I saw a product that was allowing crypto betting on Twitch.

I don't know if they're still on Twitch or used to be on Twitch, but you could like watch a CS go game and then like bet on who the winner would be or like bet on if the guy could get like 9 headshots or something along those lines.

So their idea was not even to plug into Twitch directly but to offer a Chrome extension outside of Twitch so Twitch couldn't block it and then you could like place bets on the streamer could collect bets keep a cut of the bets and then place bets on like whatever he would do you know like I get 10 headshots more remember this and I dropped to get this last

yeah basically hamster race but on like twitch live streamers I think it would work really well if it hit any sort of critical growth.

Look, I mean, it's not hard to get me to bet on your platform.

There is a app on Polygon that lets you bet on whether or not a specific flight is going to be on time or late.

And being the airline connoisseur that I am, I sometimes, I resisted for

But don't worry, you'll hear mine like crying and whining in the background.

markets for anything with an API now, you know?

Like what else should we be doing prediction markets for?

If you can scale it up and do a market for anything.

It's a question of like, should we as a society be betting on

the weather would be funny though, because like typically prediction markets like actual show, like what the true intention is, regardless of what like the noises.

There's like tooling available to manipulate the weather.

I mean, it's going to be manipulated market just like everything else.

Because, yeah, someone could plan to do something to cause a flight to be delayed.

But it's a lot harder to, I think, coordinate against someone betting essentially on 0 DTEs for flights versus someone making a slightly longer term bet on stuff like that DK.

How much volume is there on on flight delay bets like in a day?

He just gets refunded because he's the only 1.

But yeah, I'd be interested as to how much of it is just me and and them taking the other side like if we just pay him out long enough like eventually people will come.

It's actually nevermind I was gonna say that because Cozy brings it up every stream that he's betting on this, but I still don't know the name of the app.

Anyone could just like Google like the descriptive words and find it because I don't know anything else that allows this

yeah you I saw it and I thought it was an ad and a scam and I the first time I didn't look at it but then I saw like Hamza share something about it and then I was like okay all right this is legit I need to go check it out.

All right but on to why we brought you on.

For those of you, for those of our viewers, listeners who don't know who you are, why don't you give yourself a brief intro?

Let's talk about some of the things that you've built over the last couple of years, and then we'll get into Anada shit.

I basically, I'm very DeFi focused, but I also like to build stuff in crypto.

I started off just in Bitcoin way back in 2013 and then kind of always stayed involved.

Made my crypto Twitter account just before the last bull cycle kicked off.

So just around like right after yams time.

And then I made an alt account just to talk about it because on my regular docs account, no 1 was really responding to me or caring about it.

So I made this account and then cared a lot about like Rari and Olympus and those like kind of early DeFi projects.

And that's kind of like when I started growing.

Then I built Vodamac, which was basically the bribed platform for TokenMac.

And then that got acquired by Redacted, which became Hidden Hand, which I'm sure a lot of you have used now.

And then after that, I built an ad out with Grug and Big D and we did a lot of big launch created, what I think is probably 1 of the most robust NFT collections out there.

Still has a large treasury, continues to ship every day, Strong team.

Yeah, I've been a huge Anada proponent, support.

It's probably like my my biggest like strength and weakness to a project.

Yeah, make me an honorary and like I will if it's something cool.

I'll probably be your like biggest supporter But yeah, the VTuber avatars were something that like really spoke to me when you guys were launching because as like a non focused pseudo anons that have been building for a while you're taking calls all the time and like there's nothing that's more boring and just kind of like dull than hopping on a call with like 5 or 6 people and everyone just having like a red circle with a letter in it and you're seeing reverberations around that for the whole call.

You can't interpret and it's not that you like a hundred percent can with these but like you can interpret tone you don't really get a feel for like the person there their gestures like the way the conversation is going and for like a viewer for something like like outward-facing content that's that's not a like quote-unquote business call.

If you're watching a podcast or something and like 1 of the guys is doxxed and on camera and the other one's just not, it creates a really weird kind of like vibe when you're watching it.

It's like you know you'd rather just listen to it because you can't see both of their faces.

So this added like a really cool like additional element to that and I get compliments on every single meeting I get on.

Like literally every day when I hop on the first thing someone says is like, oh wow, that's really cool.

Because if you're really crypto native, you know what anatta is.

So they say, sweet Anatta, or, oh, what's that thing?

Yeah, and then we're like, okay, well, you're definitely new here.

If I don't hear something like, after I'm done explaining, I know that it's not going to work.

So yeah, Anatta has done a ton of shit for their holders since their launch They launched with just these vtuber avatars as a v1.

You can see DK using then you guys did like updated PFPs I bullied an idea of breeding into the Discord and you guys brought that to life.

We were able to breed Arnadas and create little chibis.

Which I haven't figured out the hotkey to make him pop up.

And so I can convert into a Chibi and boom, back into DCF.

So, you know, small version, big version.

But the breeded Chibis are actually not the same ones as these.

These are just like, your main and out of can go Chibi form.

But we had an event where you could like, you and another holder could match up and you got airdropped an egg and then the egg became a Chibi.

So like you literally made a Chibi with another holder.

I think that was the first time any NFT has ever done something like that.

And the Chibi like had face tracking and hand tracking and animations, like a full VTuber.

Of the 3 ladies that I have that I was able to choose mates for, There's 1 chibi that turned out really cool because of the because of the traits that we each had.

You guys have done a really good job keeping them like together happy and pushing stuff out.

It's really hard in the NFT world to, it seems like, keep the teams together and kind of excited about pushing out content, especially with the way that, not just like the crypto market, but the NFT market has been specifically.

Like what happens is other teams, they'll like pay an artist to make something and then they'll just go off and launch it and never talk to the artist again.

So then when they have to launch something else, it becomes really difficult and really awkward.

For us, we were like, okay, we'll pay you, and then we'll ensure you have a full-time job after that.

So the artists are like still fully employed, getting like extremely high salaries, multiples of what they used to make.

We downsized a bit to get burned down, but we kept the majority of the artists on and we just keep training stuff, keep pushing stuff.

And if you're in the Discord, it seems like that they all have a blast like doing yeah they

job you know like they they're on stream every day they're doing like collaborative things where people can come on and watch them like create different elements for the Anadas they have you know game days that they're they're doing interactive stuff and like giveaways to holders it's definitely I think 1 of the most, I don't want to say slept on projects because it's so general, but really I do think that Ananda is 1 of the most slept on communities that are Still around and remained like consistently outputting stuff throughout the spare market, so we've got a Halloween clothing coming out and yeah, you have this whole and that's kind of leading to this whole new thing where you can't necessarily change traits, but you can change their wardrobe.

So basically our idea with, so with 1.0s, you can see from D3 is like he's, those are stuck in their current clothing, but we wanted to be able to let people switch up their VTuber.

So it feels real, you know, when you get on a video call, sometimes wearing a hoodie, sometimes wearing a suit, sometimes you're wearing like nothing, like whatever you wanna wear, you can wear.

But we didn't wanna destroy the like rarity.

So what we did was we said all of the clothes that Uranata ships with are unique to Uranata.

But every, we'll have like holiday themed or collab themed clothings that anyone can put on.

So there you go, D3 is wearing his chubino.

So with the holiday themed clothing, what you can do is you can just show up and you can download like various Halloween costumes.

And then we have tutorials for how to put them on.

And then you can put them on and wear them on a video call.

So anyone can wear the costumes on their Anatta, but anyone can't put on a different Anatta's clothes.

So That way it's like you still keep the rarity stuff, but you also get some like configurability and like fun.

So in Christmas we can launch like Santa outfits and then at Easter we can drop like bunny ears for everyone and things like that.

And then we're also doing for Halloween this Friday anyone can come play in a haunted house.

So the DAO funded some 3D world creators to make us like a haunted 3D world and you can come download your Anatta in 3D form and go into this 3D world and walk around this haunted house, like jump scares, talk to other holders, chit-chat, like just like vibe and hang out.

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Eden Aesthetix : Episode #29 (Cozy & DK) feat DCF God - Anata Stream