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Marie Kondo | The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up | Talks at Google
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Hello, everybody. My name is Marie Kondo. Call me KonMari. KonMari.
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Yes. I am a Japanese organizing consultant. I usually visit client home and give her one-to-one organizing lesson. INTERPRETER 2
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So first of all, let me start how I usually work with my clients. So this is the first example. So she is the lady who lives in this room.
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She is in her 20s.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-DAVIDESON
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You already see in this picture that she has full of stuff from her bed. Actually, that's actually her bed, but you might not see it. And she also had a lot of stuff on the floor.
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And she first told me that, don't you think the bedroom is just like a storage? So when she comes home after work, she never, ever feel relaxing in her room.
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But how about after my lesson?
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Voila.
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It looks so neat and clean. Of course, nothing is on the floor. MARIE KONDOROKOA
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OEBUCKERI So my job is to consult how to organize, and I've been doing this job for more than 10 years.
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Characteristics of my consultation is that my client never go back to the mess because They have been transformed to the organized person. Today, I'm going to tell you how to make your house in order in a way that will change your life forever. YUKIKO
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ARAKAWA
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So before I start telling you what to do, let me tell you how I start my job, how I discovered this method. MARIE KONDOROKA-MARUOKANA I was only 5 years old when I got very interested in how to organize things. MARIE KONDOROMOEVA
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JR.: INTERPRETER 2
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So I was always picking up every single issue of the magazine that my mother was subscribing. And the magazine was about how to organize the house.
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YUKIKO ALBANOSCHE-SWARNSCHEKER ANDREA AYAKAWA SPEAKING JAPANESE
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So when I turned 15 years old, I started a serious consultation to how to organize things. YUKIKO ALBANOSCHE-SWARNSCHEKER
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ANDREA AYAKAWA SPEAKING JAPANESE
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There was a bestseller book in Japan titled, a technique to get rid of things. And I read that book, and I discovered the method. YUKIKO ALBARAO.
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SPEAKER 1. What is the method of
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cleaning? I don't think you've heard of it. I have read every single book on cleaning in Japan.
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YUKIKO ALBARAO. You would probably wonder how I started researching organizing things. First, I started reading every single book published in Japan on organizing.
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MARIE KONDO. SPEAKER 1. Atowa
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hontou ni mainichi katazuke wo jissen shitsuzuke mashita.
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MARIE KONDO. And I also keep organizing things. I worked every single day organizing things.
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MARIE KONDO. Today, my own room. Next day,
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my brother's room. Next day, my sister's room. Followed by the kitchen, living room, bathroom, my friend's room, friend's room, friend's room, my classmate, classroom, classroom, classroom of the school, and again, return to my own room.
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So I spent most of my teenage years organizing things just like that.
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YUKIKO ALBANO.
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And I started organizing consultation business when I was 19. YUKIKO ALBANO. I also picked this topic in my thesis at college.
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YUKARI NAKAGAWA It's So safe to assume that I am a crazy, tithing, fanatic. KATSUKO
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ITO So you are perfect to think that I'm a fanatic organizer at this point. MARIE KONDOROKOA-MARUKANANI So I'd like to present KonMari method, which I discovered to everybody here today.
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Tidy in 1 shot, as quickly and completely as possible. MARIE KONDOROKOA-YOSHIDA
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If you think you have to tidy around you every day, gradually, little by little, that's completely wrong.
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MARIE
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KONDOROKOA-MARUOKAWA Because you need a shock that changes your mind into tidying your thing. So you want to finish it in a very short period of time.
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MARIE KONDO.
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So the first important thing is to set the deadline of organizing.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-DAVIDESON
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Of course, you can set the deadline in 1 week, assuming that you're going to do that every day. Or you decide to do every weekend and set the deadline in 3 months.
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MARIE
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KONDOROKOA-DAVIDESON So don't MARIE KONDOROKOA-MARUOKANI So don't think about tidying as an everyday event. It's a special event, just like a festival.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-MARUOKANI So don't think about
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tidying as
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an everyday event. It's a special event, just like a festival. YUKIO HARAKAWA.
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SPEAKER 1. This is the most important thing. So, what should we do to finish cleaning up in such a short period of time? This is the next part of Konmari Method 2.
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YUKIO HARAKAWA. So the number 1, number 2 item in Konmari method is how you're going
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to do it. YUKIKO UTAMAIRANI So Konmari method 2. Sort by category, not by location.
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Things in a specific location.
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YUKIKO ALBAEKA RODINEZ-SAMSONGIEKI
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It never ends if you try to tidy up in just 1 portion of the closet or 1 portion of the living room.
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MARIE KONDOELAOA JR.: MARIE KONDOELAOA
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JR.: The right way to do is to organize by category and do it quickly. MARIE KONDOROKOA-YOSHIDA Well for example, if you decide to organize your clothes first, take out all the clothes in your house in 1 spot. Make a big pile of all the clothes you have in your house.
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YUKI KONOSHIWA So just in the same way, if you decide to organize your books, take out all your books from your bookcase and pile them up in 1 location in the house.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-YOSHIDA
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I know it looks hard. It's really messy. I'll tell you why you need to do this.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-YOSHIDA
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If you bring out all your stuff, books, clothes, in 1 location, you visually realize how much books, how much clothes, how many clothes, how many books you have.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-YOSHIDA
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On a daily life, we rarely understand how much stuff we have around us. MARIE KONDOROKOA
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OZUMANAI, JAPANESE INTERPRETER
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So it is a great opportunity if you bring out everything in 1 spot, realize how much stuff you have, how many books you have, so that you can decide which 1 you want to keep, which 1 you really need to keep, and which 1 you can get rid of.
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YUKI KONDOROA-WARAI.
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So from this point, the next step you have to take is to sort them, separate them, Separate them between the things you need and things you don't. And the criteria I recommend in my method is a little bit unique. SORE GA KONMARI METHOD
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3.
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That's number 3 of KonMari method. SELECTION CRITERION.
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Does it spark joy? Tokimeki. Spark joy.
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This. So does
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it spark joy? This is the key word.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-DAVIDESON I
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know I definitely feel weird air in this room right now.
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Don't worry. I used the reaction of the audience.
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This is a really common reaction in my seminar.
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YUKIKO ALBAROFF FORMER JAPANESE INTERPRETER
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So what I mean by saying spark joy, I can explain exactly what it is. So if you look at 1 thing, you should question yourself if that thing makes you happy, does it make you impressed?
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YUKIKO
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ALBANO. SPEAKER 2.
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MARIE
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KONDOROKOA OZUMANAI, JR.:
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Many people always think first which 1 to get rid of. But it is much more important to think which 1 to keep, which 1 you want to keep, and live together from now on. YUKIKO ALCADORN So I will tell you how to make a decision.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-MARUOKAWA
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So point number 1, make sure you touch it.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-MARUOKAWA
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take every single item you can think of on your hand.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-MARUOKAWA
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And imagine how your body reacts to that moment, how you feel when you touch the item.
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YUKI KONOSHIWA REIKA WAGAYUKI-SAN
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So Spark Joy, this is the reaction from your body, the reaction you feel from your body when you touch the item you should keep.
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YUKIKO KAZUE
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OZUMANAKA YAMAMOTO SHIRAIWA
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Just like that.
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YUKIKO KAZUE OZUMANAKA YAMAMOTO SHIRAIWA
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So if you feel every single part of your body faces up when you touch the item, that's the right feeling. YUKIO
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TANAKAI-HARAKI-HIMAWARI
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On the other hand, if the item doesn't give you any inspiration, for example, this 1. You started feeling down. INTERPRETER 2 All body started feeling down.
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INTERPRETER
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1 INTERPRETER 2
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I know you are skeptical, but if you really try to do this, you realize how your body really reacts. MARIE KONDOROKOA-YOSHIDA Definitely after this seminar, when you go home tonight, try part of it.
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So let me go over my 3 basic methods. Do it quickly, in a short amount of time, and sort by category, and find the item if the item sparks joy.
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YUKIKO ALBAROTHOM
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So this is my book. And if you need to know more about it, if you'd like to know more about it, please pick up this book.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-DAVIDESON
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So I definitely want every 1 of you to read my book, but I will give you 1 more technique. MARIE KONDOROKOA-YOSHIDA So this is the right order of organizing. MARIE KONDOROKOA-YONEKAWA So There's definitely the right order when you organize stuff.
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And this is how it goes. Start from clothes, books, document, miscellaneous items, then mementos.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-YONGENKAWA
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Make sure you follow this order.
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YUKIKO ALBARAO. YUKIKO ALBARAO.
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It often happens when you are going through old photos, old mementos, the items you were given from my mother. It always stops you from organizing. YUKIKO ALBARAO.
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SPEAKER 1. KEREDOMO KONO JUNBAN DE KATADUKE WO SHITEIKU KOTO NI YOTTE ANATA NO TOKIMEKU MONO WO ERABU KANKAKU TOYU NO
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WA DON DON TOGISUMASARITEIKIMASU. YUKIKO ALBARAO.
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That's why I definitely recommend you this order because this order gives you the sense of spark joy feeling. You definitely learn that feeling with your body.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-DAVIDONKO So in this order,
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we have the feeling of spark joy. MARIE KONDOROKOA OEKAWA So in this order, While you start with clothes, your body and your mind get trained with spark joy feeling. And by the time you reach to mementos, you're already good at how to do.
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You already know how to go through mementos.
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YUKIKO KENJIRON ARAIMAE
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I'd like you to try my method with this order, hopefully tonight.
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This Konmari method always works. I hope you would really try.
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So I explain all my method to you by now. So I would like to open the floor for Q&A session.
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So there's 2 mics. There's 1 mic over there, and there's 1 mic over there, if you'd like to line up. I'll get it started, just because I'm right here.
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So I wanted to know, how do you deal with somebody who has a child, like a one-year-old child, and there's toys everywhere?
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YUKIKO
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ALBARAO.
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This is not difficult. It depends on the child's age, but I have 2 different methods depending on the child's age. The borderline is about 3 years old.
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MARIE
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KONDORO-DAVIDSON Because If the child is younger than 3 years old, most of the cases, parents just organize their stuff.
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YURI KONGOMARAI-SHAMON
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But if the child is over 3 years old, older than 3 years old, it's time to train them how to organize things, and they're capable of it. MARIE KONDOROKOA-MARUOKAWA And the important thing at this point is, Do not tell them to organize the toys. Tell them to organize the clothes.
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That's important.
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YUKIKO ALBARAO. SPEAKER 1. Why?
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Because it's a habit to teach them how to fold their clothes and put them back in their original place after folding them in a clean state. It's actually harder to put away toys. YUKIKO ALBARAO.
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Well, I'll tell you why. Because clothes is something you always put on every day. So If you learn how to fold the clothes that you always put on and put it back into the clothing at the right spot, that's the best way that they learn they need to organize and the importance of organizing things.
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YUKIO TANAKA IWASAKI
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So the number 1 key is to teach them how to fold the clothes. SPEAKER
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1.
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OK. Next question.
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AUDIENCE 1. So I understand your method in terms of getting yourself into a mindset where you only have to do this once. But I was curious how you deal with things that we acquire, either things that we acquire ourselves or things like gifts that come into the house.
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Do you do an inventory annually, or do you just not let them come into the house?
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YUKIKO ALBAERTARO.
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In her case, she doesn't really have any rules for that. YUKIO TANAKAZI
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NOVATANI Why is that? The characteristics of my method of organizing are that my own excitement is
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the standard. Because her method is completely based on if you are impressed, if you get inspired by the item. YUKIKO UTAMAIRANI
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For example, how often do you want to organize the things you want to organize? How much do you need to keep around yourself?
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Because it depends on the person how often you want to organize or how much stuff you need to keep around yourself.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-MARIEJAKOA-HBAEK YUKARI NAKAHARA-SWARNSTEIN,
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JR.: Because my method again and again is based on if you get inspired. If you get the spark joy feeling, that doesn't really bring you back to the cruddering situation. It's not really depending on how often you should acquire or how you get the stuff in your room.
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Thank you.
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Next question.
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Hi. Thank you so much for coming. My question is, I have a lot of things that I need, but I don't like, but they don't inspire joy. How do I find the balance between keeping versus discarding them?
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MARIE KONDORO-MARAOZI
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For example,
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what kind of items? GMAT study books and very old kitchen utensils that I haven't replaced.
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MARIE KONDO.
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If you judge those items are necessary for you right now, that means those items are making you happy. MARIE KONDOROKOAEVA So even if you're not inspired by those items, but if they're necessary to you right now, you should keep them. INTERPRETER
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2 OK.
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MARIE
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KONDORO-DAVIDSON So 1 recommendation I can give you is that if the item doesn't inspire you, if you don't get the special feeling, try to talk it into it. Try to convince yourself that this is a good thing. This is a good thing for you.
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YUNA KAMURAOKA-HARAJIKUNI SPEAKER
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2 YUNA KAMURAOKA-HARAJIKUNI
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If you keep doing it, even if the item doesn't inspire you, you started getting positive feeling about it. SPEAKER 2. If you keep doing it, even if the item doesn't inspire you, you started getting positive feeling about it.
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SPEAKER
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1.
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So in this way, you probably find all the items you have in your house inspiring.
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I see. Thank you. Please try it.
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Next question.
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Have you ever encountered, like in some of your clients, like my question is basically about the shared spaces. If you are sharing like a living room or the kitchen with somebody, maybe you want to keep it clean or The things that are important for you are not that many. But the things that are important to the other person are the most of them, and they're just all over the place.
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Is there a way to make it work? Do you decide your space from this side?
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Can you speak up? I'm sorry. I didn't catch the whole question.
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I'm just curious about how to deal with a case when most of the stuff actually does not belong to you. So it's about your decision to keep it.
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INTERPRETER 2 So
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those are belonging to someone else, correct?
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INTERPRETER 1 Yeah.
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INTERPRETER 2 So when you start cleaning up, you shouldn't think about other people. The most important thing is to finish your own cleaning. INTERPRETER 1
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You should prioritize to organize your own items before you start thinking about someone else.
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MARIE KONDORO-DAVIDSON YUKIKO
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ALCAREA ARENA For my experience, in the past 10 plus years of my career, I've definitely seen several clients who keep saying that, oh, I try to tidy up my room, but my husband doesn't cooperate, my kids don't really cooperate. But if you look at clients saying something like that, they're the ones who are not tidying up correctly. MARIE
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KONDORO-VAN DER MEEREN
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I know you have to organize stuff no matter what. So the important thing is you organize your stuff and put them in your space. So separate the space with other people.
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So you take care of your stuff in your space and leave the other stuff and other spaces to the other people. MARIE KONDO.
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INTERPRETER 2 And
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you shouldn't worry about the space allocated to other people because that's up to them. That's their own business, how to use them, how to organize them.
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MARIE KONDO. SPEAKER 1. Of
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course, you can set a few rules, like you shouldn't really, you know, anything should leak out, or anything should be exposed, stuff like that. But that's the best way to do with other people.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Masa, ganbatte kudasai. Arigatou gozaimasu.
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Good luck.
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Hi, thank you for coming. Since you talk here about how to initially purge the items you have, just sorting into what to keep and not, do you also have recommendations for then how you go about organizing the items that you decide to keep? Or do you leave that up to the individual person?
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MARIE KONDOROKOAEVA
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So there is a clear rule.
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MARIE
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KONDOROKOAEVA So make sure to organize the same items in the same category here and there. They're kind of scattered around. So my point is to put all of them together in 1 spot.
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MARIE KONDORO-DAVIDSON
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KAMIYA
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OYAMA So as I showed you earlier, organizing by category is very important. And another important thing I can definitely tell you is how to fold the clothes. That's definitely a big key.
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Yes.
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Great, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Hi, thanks for coming here, and thanks for taking the time
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to write a book.
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I have a friend who is a pretty serious hoarder with lots of stuff. And when you ask him, do you need this stuff? Can you throw this stuff away?
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The answer is, oh, I might need it later. Or I have this grand plan to use this in such a way. But of course, that never happens. And stuff just keeps accumulating.
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I wonder if you have worked with clients like that and you know what you say to them and you know what the outcome is.
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I have a friend who has a lot of things but she just keeps them in her house. I tell her to throw them away but she says she'll use them later and she'll have them later. She keeps them and as she does that, she has more and more things.
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What advice would you give to people
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like that? Advice for people who don't feel like cleaning up?
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Probably you're asking me the advice to somebody who don't even bother organizing?
Speaker 11
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No, actually, it's pretty organized. He can find things. It's just a huge amount of stuff that's there.
Speaker 2
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Oh, so it's not cluttered, but he has a lot of items.
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It's a lot of items. And it's kind of creeping into the corridor space and so on. You can't walk around in the house.
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INTERPRETER 2 You know? INTERPRETER 1 I'm not
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saying he's a busy man, but he's got a lot of stuff, so he's got no place to walk. He's in that kind of state. INTERPRETER 2 I see.
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If he were my client, I wouldn't care if he had a lot of stuff. INTERPRETER 3
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If he is my client, I don't think it's important for me if he has too many items or not.
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YUSUKE USTUNOMIYA-KANJINGII
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I think it is much more important to figure out if that person is happy with that amount of items.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-DAVIDESON
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So I would probably recommend that person to imagine the ideal lifestyle for that person.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-MARUOKANAN what makes you happy? First, think about it calmly, and then choose what excites you. If you do this, you'll be surprised how much the cleaning will progress.
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In the case of your friends, first, ask them, are you happy now? And then, talk about what kind of life you want to live. If you have a family member who is worried about cleaning up, talk to them about what kind of life you want to live. MARIE KONDORO-DAVIDSON
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I think your friend needs to figure out what kind of lifestyle he or she wants. You know, what kind of, what's the realistic life, you know, your friend wants so that he or she can figure out how much stuff to keep or what to keep, what not to keep, et cetera. And this is a very efficient way of mindset for anybody.
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If you have somebody like that in your family members, friends around you, this is really highly recommended.
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OK, thank you.
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We have time for 1 more question. Those of you that were lucky enough to get here early and got a book, Marie will sign them in the back afterwards.
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My question is related to something that as engineers we think sometimes a bit too much that how frequently we should run a task. Should we run it online, think about running all the time, or should we run it in a batch? So what do you think about organizing?
Speaker 12
37:31
What's the ideal frequency that you advise? Like should we think, always be running in our mind, oh, I just picked a pen. It's probably not that useful anymore. And should we always be thinking about it, or should we do it something like at the extreme end would be like once in a year, which is what I do typically like at the end of the year in December.
Speaker 12
37:49
I think, all right, this is a bag for goodwill. This is a bag to throw. And that's like the minimum we do. So when should we do that?
Speaker 12
37:57
Should we do it like end of the year? Should we do it every end of the day? Or should we constantly be thinking about every time we encounter a thing in our house or at workplace?
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YUKIKO ALCINDOR THROUGH INTERPRETER How often should we try to clean up? And what's the best timing? Should we do it at the end of the year or in the middle of the summer?
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Do you have any advice? YOKO TANAKA as an interpreter Yes. If you're going to give me an answer, I would say that you should do
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it once. MARIE KONDOROKOA-YONEKAWA for more information. MARIE KONDOROKOA-YONEKAWA For more information,
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you can try this method once. INTERPRETER 2
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Well, my answer is, the only answer is just do it 1 time.
Speaker 1
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-YONEKAWA For more information, you can try this method once. I recommend you to try it right now.
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INTERPRETER 2 Talking about when you should do, my answer is right now. It can be any time, but do it now.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-MARUOKAWA I would say, cleaning up is not just about cleaning up your house. It's about thinking about how you want to live and what you want to be surrounded by.
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Well, the reason is, it's not for tidying up your house, tidying up your living space. It's all about how you want to spend the rest of your life from now on. So I highly recommend you to do it right now.
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ASAP. Good luck.
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39:27
Any closing comments? Or anything else that Rie wants to say?
Speaker 3
39:31
RIE HIRASHIMODA-FANSELOWE Yes. If you have any comments.
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39:34
RIE HIRASHIMODA-FANSELOWE So I'm sure many of you will find my story a little strange, but I'd like to briefly talk about why my book is titled, How to Change Your
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Life.
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39:50
I know the topic is kind of puzzling, it's very unusual, but as a conclusion, I would like to tell you why.
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MARIE KONDOROKA-MARUOKANA MARIE KONDOROKOA-DAVIDESON
Speaker 2
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So I know Every 1 of us has so many items. There are so many items in our life. But figuring out what items you have right now is figuring out how you are going to live your
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life. YUKIKO ALBARAOA-CHANGAWARAI,
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JR.: So my method is telling you to examine every single item in your life. That means you examine, you assess your lifestyle and the life you want to live from now on.
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MARIE KONDORO-DAVIDOVICH, JR.:
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So once you find out the inspiration from every item you have, you probably learn the inspiration on how you want to live, how you want to work, how you want to be succeeded, how you want to make friendship, et cetera.
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YUKIKO ALBARAO.
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So find out your own inspiration point with item and with your lifestyle.
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MARIE KONDOROKOA-YOSHIDA So if you've been listening to my Konmari method, please try each item and see if it makes you feel better.
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INTERPRETER 2 Thank you for listening to KonMari Method. And please, please touch each item you have and feel the inspiration from them.
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INTERPRETER 1 Thank you very much today.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 4
42:19
Thank you.
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