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Hello everyone. We have a cultural agenda today. And if we have a cultural agenda, then we can't do without the well-known publicist, Remy Meissner. Hello. I'm glad to see you.

He immediately rushed to the cultural agenda. He lured us. What do you have, comrade Zhukov?

We have cultural...

The news of archeology?

The news of archeology. I would say that our agenda is not very cultural, rather uncultured. The fact is that We have been fighting for such a place in the city of St. Petersburg-Leningrad as the Okhtinsky Cape. On the place of the merger of the Okhta River and the Neva River opposite the famous Smolny Cathedral.

On the other side of the river there is a beautiful Smolny Cathedral,

and on

the other side there is the Okhtinsky Mys. On this very Okhtinsky Mys, which was well known to everyone who studied at school and lived in St. Petersburg, there was the fortress of Nienshans, which Peter Alekseevich took first before the foundation of St. Petersburg, because Nien-Schanz was in the way.

Like now,

by the way.

Like now.

Also, it's in the way

for someone. It's in the

way a little. It's a bit of a predestination.

Then he ordered to dig up Nien-Schanz. I will say right away that Peter Alekseevich's order was fulfilled absolutely without any doubt. They dug it up badly.

Fortunately for the archaeologists.

And they built the Okhtinskaya shipyard on top of it. What kind of a shipyard it was, it existed until the beginning of the 2000s. There we had all sorts of river ships being repaired. Before that, it was a real shipyard. There they built the infamous Vostok, on which Billingshausen opened the Antarctic.

And something else. That is, it was quite a representative military shipyard. Which

is also interesting for historians.

To

see where Billingshausen built the Vostok.

By the

way, in the Soviet Union, in honor of the Berlingshausen ship, a not-unknown spaceship was named. It was named after him.

I see the name is familiar.

This is about him. Despite the fact that 1821 was a rotten Tsarism, look how in the Soviet Union they distinguished the sailing of Berlinshausen. They honored him. Yes. Well, in fact, our polar station, the Soviet 1, is also called the East for some reason.

That's why.

If they hated tsarism, they should have made a movie like Bilensk-Gauzin. Drunk, not shaved, crumpled in a roll.

Oppresses sailors who, despite Bilensk-Gauzin, opened Antarctica. But no. In short, the most interesting place. And suddenly, a gas

pump appears. The most interesting place is that suddenly... It's interesting for us. Yes. Suddenly,

Gazprom appears. Which bought a piece of land and was going to build a glass skyscraper there, which is now in Lakhta. But back then, it was the 2000s, we had everything in order with security laws. It was very difficult to bypass them. Moreover, Gazprom is very much in the spotlight.

And the center of St. Petersburg. It's a nightmare.

They put the businessmen in the wheel. Disgrace. I hope it will be successful.

Gradually. I'll get to that quickly. First, the city defenders jumped on the debis. Because they said that the thing is 300 meters long. Opposite Smolny.

But you

need to have a

lot of audacity for this.

The thing is in the form of a crystal. If you tear 1 off, turn it over, put it on the floor, it will be just the same.

It will

be harmonious.

But I must say that the civil defenders would not have been able to do anything if they had not remembered that there is a Nihon-Shans down there, and it needs to be dug. And this is, excuse me, If you are going to build something and you have a monument under construction, you have to pay for it. And the poor Gazprom had to pay for the excavations of Nien-Schanz. Nien-Schanz began to dig. And they dug quickly.

Not a season, as archaeologists usually do in the summer, but they dug all year round.

With their brushes and shovels.

Actually, everyone who knows which side of the shovel to hold on to is digging. Your humble servant is a bit the same. Accordingly, they dug up a piece of Nien Shards. As usual, the surfing is laid out. Where the cultural layer ended, it didn't end.

Because a small settlement of the 16th century was

found below.

A small 1. In the sense of a weak layer.

And the businessmen are like, are you kidding?

And under it was found the Swedish fortress of the 14th century, Lanskrona.

When are we going to build offices?

And under Lanskrona was discovered the Slavic settlement of Nevskoe Ust'e. Also known. And it's quite good. And there is a graveyard. I mean a cemetery.

Our ancestors... Okay, but from the bottom there was a town of Finogorov. It was in the Viking era. And under the Viking era it was discovered that people lived there. Attention, now there is a good date obtained by Organic, 4070 years BC.

That is, there were no nests yet, and people already lived. That is, the nest did not yet completely lose its path from the Lake of Ladoga. That is, a neolithic. Cool.

The 3 of them did not even go.

The 3 of them did not even think of building yet. And we already have people here, and this is the oldest neolithic camp in Eastern Europe.

What a meanness in relation to businessmen.

Yes. They couldn't build their camp in Murino where there is nothing. Right.

Because in the future they couldn't look. They would interfere with effective owners. And they would disturb them.

How? If there was a fortress from the beginning of the 17th century, it would have been excavated in a couple of years. Given the impact of the work, the money allocated by Gazprom in the scale of archaeology, we have never seen such money. But this cannot be excavated quickly. Unfortunately.

And secondly, when you have a seven-layered monument, and it goes deep into the neolithic, the question arises that this is an archaeological monument not even of municipal or federal importance, but of the world importance. And UNESCO immediately drew attention to this, and immediately informed the city authorities, as well as the Russian authorities, that If this thing stands on top of the monument, and even opposite Smolny, the city of St. Petersburg will be excluded from the UNESCO World Heritage List. Because you have completely lost the coast here. Yes, because

you can break it. We don't care, we are leaving. And at least burn it all.

Well, the unfortunate Gazprom had to move the construction site to Laghto, where for some reason there was not a single archaeological monument. They built it. But they bought the land and the land is theirs.

You can build something else there.

That is, immediately after that, the excavation was stopped. Because, okay, Gasprom doesn't need it, but the state didn't care. Because he has no money at all. There was no money at all in 2006-2007.

He had money.

As a

rule, no. And that's why the monument was just abandoned. The excavations are not funded, there is nothing to dig for. The archaeologists were digging, conserving.

Why would they fund the excavations if it turned out that offices cannot be built on top of this monument? It was

a shame. But Gazprom is a talented and advanced businessmen, who around 2013-2019-2020 started to come in with development projects. Let's build a good business center.

There are not many of them. In St. Petersburg, there are no business centers.

I would say that Russia is suffocating without a business center. This is a national heritage. They cannot build something of regional importance. And they are going to build it. We will show you the picture.

Maybe you haven't seen anything. Although, of course, you

have seen everything.

You will see

it again. What a

beauty. It's wonderful.

It looks like a sheep.

It's crooked. It's a nice park. And a bit of a collision. It's fair.

It looks like something.

It should cover 2 thirds of the Volkhoi Cape. Look, everything

is so nice, a park. And a little bit on the Colosseum, it's fair. From all sides, it's like you're not going to go to something similar. Yes. But it should cover just 2 thirds

of this Volkhin's Cape. And again, the question arose, what about the defenders of the cities, what about the archaeologists, friends, this is a monument of world significance, it must be museified. They say, calm down, we have a lot of space in our business center, and we'll allocate space for the Museum of Archaeology.

By the

way, it's free for you.

Well, if you're such a communist, you have to agree. Moreover... Comrade Zhukov, you will bite your elbows when they say that they will build a business center there. But we won't give you anything.

Moreover, they will arrange people's work there. They will work there and maintain this museum. And the objects were dug up on this Okhinsky Mosque. About 20 thousand.

A lot of museums, a weapon room needs to be built.

It is clear that as a monument not dug up, this is far from all. And this is the most important thing. The monument is not dug up. That is, they did not even have time to dig up the whole Inchans. Although it is the highest and it would seem to be the easiest to dig it up.

And there, excuse me, first of all, there, with a rare exception, in my opinion, 30 percent of the wall was lost. That's what Pyotr Alekseevich ordered to dig up. And it was really dug up. That is, under 0. And the rest remained.

That is, the shafts of the fortress remained, the ditch remained. Even more, attention, they found a secret underground passage to the ditch. Along with the door and all the other things. So, it seems, from Karl Bastion it was possible to penetrate the ditch and shoot at the attackers. Which, by the way, during the storm organized by Petro, they did.

And also, they found, for example, the foundation of a wooden Swedish dungeon from the 1300s from the Lanskron Fortress. I think it's up to 3 meters high. With all sorts of different details. You can't build anything above that.

But not for Gazprom.

That's why I'm not talking about the Neolithic settlement and the Slavic settlement before the Swedish 1 of the 12th and 13th centuries. They just managed to dig it out. They found that it was there. They were able to outline its outline, but they didn't dig it out.

They didn't even start.

They just touched it. What is there? By the way, the neolithic finds are amazing. Organic was removed and preserved. Some fishing nets, slippers.

Due to the fact that it is a wet layer, a lot of water. Oxygen doesn't get in there. It's preserved. And it didn't decompose.

You can look at the rope.

You can see everything. And plus there are still the jintar buttons. It's interesting for someone.

Serious people are not interested in this. Serious people are interested in the developer project, business center, this and that. Here it is.

But do You know who stood up for the defense? I never guess. Look at the top and remember who is at the top. The Emperor. The Emperor.

In 2021, I went to the President's website to check. I checked. Article 7

of May

1, 2021. The Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation should consider the issue of the creation of a historical-archaeological museum of the reserve on the Okhta Cape together with the Government of St. Petersburg and the public shareholder society Gazprom a question about the creation of a museum of the reserve on the Okhtyna Cape and to present the corresponding proposals. The deadline until May 1, 2021 is the responsible Lyubimov, Beglov and Miller.

Well, what did they provide?

Since the order It's an order, not an order. And to consider jointly the options to provide the corresponding proposals.

That is, they ordered them to just sit there?

But there is a very important caveat. The historian of the Archaeological Museum-Reserve. What is the difference between the Museum of Archaeology and the Museum of the Reserve? The Museum of Archaeology is quite obvious. You can go to the GIM in Moscow or to the first floor in the Hermitage.

You have a lot of things that are laid out in the showcases with explanations.

This is

a museum, just a museum. And the Museum-Reserve is also an archaeological history. This means that the exhibits are the excavated buildings themselves. That is, They need to be conserved and museum-ified, providing the public with access to them. Their safety, study and functioning.

The museum-reserve... Now we'll just look at what the cultural layer looks like. This is how the cultural layer looks like.

This is an

archaeological plan. It's not a place of chance. This is a zone of finding. There is also a cultural layer.

It is

quite obvious that people lived not only inside the fortress.

They hang out around and lost their buttons.

Yes. And this is a neolithic settlement. And the white 1 is what has been excavated. And everything else

has not

been excavated.

Yes. It would be interesting. This needs

to be conserved as a whole.

1 of 2. Everything else is not excavated. Yes. Apparently, a lot of interesting things would be there. That is,

it needs to be conserved entirely. 1 of 2. Either entirely or offices. Entirely, offices entirely.

Intermediate option. Here are the offices, and in the middle there

are museums. Not at all. Then Gazprom was offended.

There was an intermediate option.

And then Gazprom was offended. He filed

a lawsuit. We spent money. We ordered the excavations. And here is the good deed.

And then Gazprom. Dreams come true. As you can see, they didn't come true. They had to move the construction

site to the edge of the city. It's a nightmare. Although this thing is not visible anywhere. It is

visible everywhere. And it looks the same everywhere. Agree. Opposite Smolny it would be a bend. It's a bend.

Who knows what is going on.

What are you talking about? It's a bend. It's a bend. It's a bend. It's a bend.

It's a bend. It's a bend. It's a bend.

It's a bend. It's a bend. It's a bend. It's a bend. It But this thing is everywhere.

It looks like a one-man show. It would be too much

against Smolny. Who knows.

What we will see next to Smolny. And what we will say later?

Now it's not a problem. And they lost the trial. How? Because there is a law on security excavations.

The law on Gazprom. Gazprom. Gazprom.

And in the Kuybyshev court, I remember, we raised the wave all over the world. On the website of the Ministry of Culture there was a public discussion. In short, they balloted the idea of this beautiful glass office center. You understand, there are successful businessmen. And they are like, sorry, but why did you take it as a monument?

For example, We don't know anything about it. Let's do an expertise. Not yours, but a normal 1.

Your is clearly

a bad 1. It doesn't matter. You want to confuse us. You have confused us so many times.

We have no conscience. We

is no conscience. That's why the archaeologist Aynar Sadditov was called from Tatarstan. He never worked on a monument. For example, the head of the expedition, Peter Sorokin, from the Institute of History and Material Culture, my colleague in the sector of Slavic-Finnish archaeology. He was the head of the expedition long before the security excavations in Mys.

He doesn't just know the place, he has worked there all his life. His expertise is not good. And here is another opinion. A colleague of the Sadists said that it was not a monument. 15% of what you offered to museum.

And the rest is not a monument, it's some kind of garbage. Moreover, I believe that the excavations are not finished.

If he thinks so, then of course.

And here is a report of a colleague of Saditov. More precisely, an expertise of a colleague of Saditov. With whom you could get acquainted. I saw her. She is a pure scoundrel.

Exactly because... On what basis do you, my colleague, consider this piece of the wall a national heritage, and next to it another piece.

It is connected with the plans of the development.

Surprisingly, the cultural value coincides with the plans of the development. I can see that the Swedish architect, by the way, not Swedish, but Italian, an intelligent architect who already knew everything about business at the beginning of the 17th century, came to Okhinsky Mosque and said, «Well, here you need to have a cultural state». «The person

with the

offices here will stand up like a bat. Watch our video».

«And here you build all sorts of things so that you can easily destroy. The business center will look perfect.

And all the valuable things you take over there. I feel that this business center will not be disturbed by that piece.

That's how it turned out. That is, The Italians are great. But the rest are not. Where

are the rest?

The rest are... The neolithic people.

They were wild. They didn't know anything about business.

There was no Oktyabrsky Cape. Because the Neva didn't reach this place. They didn't really understand what would happen here. They thought that there was something like Murino. Not very valuable.

Or Bugrov.

They thought who would need our slippers. What kind of fool would dig into the ground to find it.

But in the 17th century, the Italians already thought. Well done. So, expertise is a pure point of derision. Because, it is quite obvious, without going into archaeological details, only about the law, which seems to be in the legal state, which is ahead of everything. In fact, the monument is not dug up.

That is, the excavations did not end, they were stopped due to the cease of financing. That's it. And so, according to the law, it needs to be, if you are going to really build something there, to dig it up. This is the first. And secondly, what about the museum-reserve?

Well, simply because Why do you think that this piece of the wall needs to be museum-fitted? And this 1 doesn't. They are exactly the same.

Just the same. Well, there are 2 identical pieces. 1 is not enough. Look at it. The wall is a wall.

It can be. And we get the following picture. This is a glass misunderstanding that should stand there. It looks like a toilet. Slightly tilted.

It is very convenient. And below is archeology. That is, even without taking into account what area this thing will take, construction equipment, communications... You can

ride on all sorts of ancient skulls.

Communications will kill everything. And we have a very few monuments

of such preservation Communication is a deadly weapon. And instead of a unique,

not even European, but world-class monument that dates back to the 17th century, we will have a glass misunderstanding of dubious artistic values. But what is more valuable for history? Now, after presenting the expertise to Saditov's colleagues, they went to The Supreme Court of St. Petersburg. What was the decision of the lower court?

It canceled. And that's it. The construction has already begun. Right now.

We are talking here, comrades. And there at this time someone is bulldozing the neolithic button.

Well, not yet. But right of the administrative building of the European European Union is being demolished. It was built in 1948. It was converted into the administrative building of Gazprom, which was managed by all these future buildings. Now it is being demolished.

By the way, the fact that it is from 1948 is also not very good.

I remember in the 90s there was such a mood that everything except dollars is of no value. Then I would understand it. And now we have been shouting for a year that our great history, our great ancestors, we will all be worthy of them.

In 1 of the 17 points in the latest ideology

it is

written that history is inextricable and the succession of generations. Here you have it in

material form. Inextricability and succession. Before the Neolithic.

It would be cool to say

to these Swedes that our people have settled there. Moreover, I am sure

that the neolithic camp was called Leningrad. For some reason.

They could have known. If they could have known about the office. About Lenin. Lenin will be cooler.

Therefore, what will we have right now? Against all public discussions, against all experts, who worked right on the monument, against the law. The law can be bypassed in some way. You just don't recognize this heritage. And if it's not a heritage, then it's not needed.

I wonder how these guys need money so much. Or do you really need to shit on this whole story? Because they tell you that there's a 4, 000-year-old settlement, and nothing moves inside.

Well, 6, so to speak.

And you don't care. You have such a reaction. I wonder, I think, what kind of scrooge would you be. You said that there was no Jesus in the project.

We already had everything.

We already had houses built. Maybe you are reptiloids. You have your own archeology and you take care of it. Most importantly,

Beglov thanked Putin for the order about the reserve on the Oktyabrskaya Cape. He reacted and thanked him politely. There is an opinion that this is very touching. Just extremely touching. Because the vice president of the St.

Petersburg Union of Architects, Svyatoslav Goykovich, by the way, a great fellow, he helped to fight all this filth for a long time. They prepared a professional architectural plan of the museum-reserve. For example, it is in this form. All the shafts are

raised, everything

is cleaned. There should be an exterior view from above. That is, you have a museum opposite Smolny in the center of the city. In my opinion, this is very logical. And appropriate.

First of all...

We, as tourists, went to Smolny, looked around.

We crossed the Okhinsky Bridge of Peter the Great and...

We looked

at where

it all started. Yes,

very convenient, and most importantly, there is excellent infrastructure.

And money, probably. Guys, people will probably want to see money. I'm so indifferent

to museums in

general, but I would go and look. And I would even give money to look at what was built 6, 000 years ago. Just look at how it looked.

Firstly. Secondly, I think it's in turn. But first, in terms of meaning. This is the Krasnogvardeysky district, the native district of Vladimir Vladimirovich. In fact.

I keep silent that this is my native district

too. The master of Vladimir Vladimirovich.

But it's not that simple. Now we will read. Because colleague architect Goykovich, he is, of course, a great fellow, but he is also a state thinker. And here's how he thinks. According to Staslav Goykovich, if the citizens come to the consensus that the state should buy out Gazprom, which is more than 50 percent of its historical territory, and ask not to scold the owner, who has been trying to build an office for himself for

the second decade.

Not to scold. This is very nice.

Why scold him? This is a natural need of the human body. Building offices.

Why should

I scold him?

I don't understand. 20

years. You are so stubborn. You need an office there. You think about it for

20

years. I would have already scored in 5 years.

I would have done it in a year. I'm not so persistent, so I'm not so successful.

I would have never thought of that.

I would suggest, if suddenly our comrades from Gazprom look at us, come to Murino. Right here, behind the wall, there are deserts of such size that you can put 3 such toilets. Moreover, there will be a good space between them. And there is enough space for parking. By the way, the Murin family will be very grateful to you.

Everything will flourish here.

There are not

many museums.

The Murin Museum. The Murin Museum. The Gazprom Museum. Ivan Turgenev lived here.

We agree to put a monument to the person who did it, who will remove the construction. From there, the ship will be transferred.

Well, as for the quote from Comrade Goykovich, it should be remembered that they, that is, Gazprom, are the owners of this territory. And we have the right to property. Therefore, we need to manage the territory very wisely, calmly and in accordance with the legislation. And I think the issue of property is very important in this case.

Of course.

We have

a cap country, so the question of ownership is primary.

And most importantly, Beglov said. In response to a deputy appeal, the governor of St. Petersburg, Alexander Beglov, in January 1921, replied, attention, that the city does

not have the legal

rights to buy out the Mosque of Gospro-Mokhinsky. It also does not have the right to exchange it. Look, nothing works. Like the

map of the place.

Nothing works.

Nothing comes out. Gifts are not from gifts.

From here I have several giant questions. We have a state on the fence.

It depends on whom. It depends on whom.

Look, the state has been desperately fighting for the Russian world. They even came up with such a word. And the succession of generations. Here, in fact, is the Russian world and the succession of generations.

If you don't need this, What do you need then? And what about your land of ancestors? Do you build offices there too? You will destroy everything there. 17th, 16th, 15th, 13th.

3000

years before our era. Who will sit in these offices?

I don't even know. Moreover, this museum idea could have been hellishly occupied.

Money too.

Of course. Because it is the most serious and attractive point for all of St. Petersburg and the entire North-West. Because we don't have such attention anywhere else in Europe. Well, not in Europe, but In Eastern Europe.

London or Paris. They are also very ancient. But here we don't have that. And, by the way, it won't happen again.

Right now. We are deprived of it.

Right now. And we are deprived of it.

With every second. We are solving this problem.

There are Swedes who are experiencing homosexuality, LGBT,

Russophobia. They feel good and they are arrogant.

And the worst is russophobia. It's even worse than homosexuality. It's connected. It's very similar. However, for some reason, the Swedes, along with their homosexuality, when they gathered to build a giant underground parking lot in the center, they stumbled upon the remains of medieval Stockholm.

And you can imagine, instead of a parking lot, there is now a museum of Stockholm's archeology. The same

is the

Museum-Reserve with preserved buildings and everything else.

Apparently, it's some kind of gayness. A real man immediately threw everything away, put it there. What does he need right now?

Because he's a man.

Because he's a man. And these guys are with their brushes. It's a terrible thing. It's a terrible thing.

Underground parking, the black hole.

At the same

time, if suddenly, Gazprom... On the third day, in May, in the year of 2023, paid 78 million euros to the Turkish football club Beşiktaş. The second place in the Turkish football division. They were not awarded the first place, but the second. They were not paid for wearing the Gazprom uniform with the Gazprom logo and renaming their own arena.

Gazprom. Look, there is money, but not for the museum.

You would not give money right away, you would lose everything at the museum. That's why Gazprom doesn't trust you.

But I'm useless.

They gave you money and you immediately... Did you even think about it? I

didn't even have an idea.

Let's give a business center, let's give more elite offices.

That is, if we hit the money in the dry residue, this is what happens. The first, the most important thing, the monument is not dug up. The second thing is that with the help of cunning maneuvers, except for 15 percent, it was not recognized as a monument. By inviting a person who has not worked on a monument for a day.

By the way, hello to him. You are a real archaeologist. A precious citizen. It is clear how much you love archaeology.

Profession, calling, talent.

You should hang your portrait in the Institute of Archaeology.

Maybe even a bust. You can put

it on the top of this center.

On the ford. Yes, it is

in the

form of a ship. And the archaeologist is there in the form of a figure on the nose.

And he will hold such a towel with the inscription "- Dreams come true". She probably also had some dreams, I think, during the examination.

But what dreams did they all have?

Well, some, I don't know.

I think she had some dreams too

during the expertise.

What dreams does she have?

Some. She needs

an archaeologist. Maybe she needs some other center. By the way, why did they invite a person from Tatarstan, not from Kamchatka? It's even closer. I look with all respect to Tatarstan and the local archaeologists.

We don't send people from St. Petersburg to Tatarstan for expertise. We communicate with the locals.

It would be funny if we dug up a Tatar monument there. And an archaeologist from St. Petersburg would

come and say... It's not

a monument. ...To destroy it and build an elite housing here.

Some monument. I

think there are some worries.

Third. Despite all your papers, the monument is not dug up. And it falls under the law of the monument protection. That is, If you are going to build something, you need to dig it up. And even if you dig it up, you can take things out of the cultural layer and put them in a museum.

But you can't take the buildings out of the cultural layer. They will stay there until you put something on top of them. And the fact that you are 15% museum-ficiating... By the way, I have no deep trust in these guys.

It will be in the business center.

There will be glass and there will be a separate museum of archaeology. I'm sure everything will be very beautiful there. But I have no trust in these people. Given their hellish persistence in destroying monuments.

Some suspicion that you don't really like monuments.

15%. 15% means that 85% will be destroyed. Look, 15% and 85%. From that multilayered mega-monument that occupies the entire territory of the Okhinsky Cape nothing will remain. By the way, I would be interested in this bucket from the Okhinsky Tower, which was preserved Because it was there that they launched the Vostok which opened Antarctica for humanity.

It's purely interesting. You say that you can't build a business center anywhere. Because somewhere someone was digging something, somewhere someone was digging something.

But in Rome, for example, they don't build business centers in Rome.

You compared the European Rome with our Paschal country of traditional values.

This is actually a question about traditional values. And about how in the midst of the fight against antifascism, right now, we have preserved the history of the land of our fathers, a monument to military glory. By the way, 2 monuments. Because the Lanskrona was taken by the Novgorod people, and not the Inchans in the same place by Pyotr Alekseevich.

Aren't you guys interested in how it was? Otherwise, you could have learned all sorts of details during the excavations. In general, it doesn't matter, right?

Well, that is...

What are they interested in? What do they want to show him to shake him off? Money? Money only. They already

have money.

They are like this Rodja from the Golden Antelope. They shout, more, more, stupid animal. There is too much gold. You are the characters of Soviet cartoons. And bad ones.

I'm telling you, from fairy tales, from cartoons, you can't include any

modern guy like Magdan. Yes, so 78 million euros of this bishektash, or whatever it's called, is there. But there is no money for your own museum. By the way, guys, what kind of advertising would you have if everything in this museum was covered with Gazprom logos?

You could even have the whole team of archaeologists wearing Gazprom T-shirts.

If Gazprom suddenly builds a real museum there, I promise to wear a Gazprom T-shirt once a week. I promise. Without fools. Because it would be a great thing. But no.

What if they make

a tattoo? Dreams come true. And the plan of the

museum is on the other side. But no, because we need an office. And I have different sad thoughts. Because at the same time they transferred the trinity of Rublyov.

Right now. It had to be done now. And the

cancer of Alexander Nevsky from the Hermitage. 1 will go to the Trinity of St. Sergius, the other to the Lavra, and the other to Alexander Nevsky.

I heard all these Artists, archaeologists, everyone is crying.

About the icon. The icon... Father Leonid Protoyeriy is an ancient guardian. Specifically, the head of the expert department of the Russian Orthodox Church on preserving antiquity. He graduated from Surikovka.

He had a special education. He told the patriarch that if we transfer the Trinity to Lavra, we will ruin it.

It is

impossible to save it there. Elementary mechanical movement will damage it. They fired him right away, banished him from the army and deprived him of his authority. Even so? The next day.

How do you want to do something with this icon? Why am I an atheist and I feel sorry for icons? And you all are so non-believers, but you don't feel sorry at all. I have no words. If you are on the Orthodox wave, You should be delighted.

Rublyov. Rublyov is a person who understood what he would have to answer for.

He did

not want to take responsibility for himself. He showed criminal weakness and disrespect for the words of the bosses. For this, he lost his job. But,

by the way, what is characteristic, apparently he did not change his clothes. And apparently he did not say that, oh, no, okay, then everything is fine, Then everything will be fine with her. No.

Father Leonid is a good man. Just the Trojan horse was taken to Zagorsk a year ago. And 61 losses from the movement. Which then had to be restored for 6 months.

So, it has already seriously deteriorated in terms of historical value?

Well, it certainly has not deteriorated. Because, again, we have specialists, restorers, it was completely restored, saved. But it will remain...

Every day?

Maybe it should be locked up in a laboratory and saved there?

Why would you

make a copy of her?

The most

important thing is that you already have a copy. You have a copy of Boris Godunov, which was specially made for the silver lining that was built under Ivan Vasilievich.

Here you go. You have it. We have already tried everything, we have already done it.

It turned out funny with Racka, Alexander Nevsky, because the Hermitage won a lot of lawsuits about the fact that the cancer remained where it was. But now it's all canceled. I don't agree with Piotrowski very often, but here he said a very smart thing. He says, friends, we will make you an exact copy of this cancer for you for free.

If you really need it.

The Russian Orthodox Church said, this is not a saint, but a cancer

that has

been in contact with the relics of the great saint. But you should be afraid to stand.

You brought the icons of the church, waved them

with water,

and they were all lit up.

And Pyotrovsky says, if your old church has become a shrine, what will happen to the new 1?

You will put it there.

And it will immediately become a shrine. What's the difference? But no, you only need the authentic genuine.

You built a new church. It's new. No saints came in. Only painters with plaster. They came in, lit it up and everything.

It's not even called Orthodoxy. It's pure magic. Because only the artifact that has a lot of mana works. Jesus didn't say anything about that. There's a lot of mana in the artifact.

And in this artifact there is no mana at all.

There is more on

the grace. So, this 1 will work better. This is a specific heresy of the icon worship. Because There were icon-worshippers. I don't mean icon-worshippers who recognize icons.

I mean who recognize icons for those who are more active, less active and more active. We have not just an icon, but this icon works better than this icon.

As I always thought, when I thought about this concept, it seemed to me that icons are such an image so that meditation would go better for you, so that you would get in the mood better. And that, in principle, it was drawn a thousand years ago or 2 days ago.

If anything, the icon is translated as a reflection. That is, a reflection of what? For example, the Trinity. The Trinity is 1 reflection. How many mirrors you put, how many reflections you will have.

Here is the Rublyov Trinity. You print it on a plotter, it will be exactly the same icon. If you light it up. But, you see, no.

I stopped understanding, comrade Zhukov. I don't get it. They are not fools. They understand that they will destroy historical values. And the icon, and the shell, they are getting into it, and still say that no, let's destroy it.

And even the priest who told them not to do this, we will drive you away so that you do not spoil our mood, and we will take it anyway, and we don't care that it is destroyed at every move. Why do you need this? I don't understand. I understand if you need money. But what is the problem?

Maybe I don't see a scheme in which the destruction of this shrine will bring money.

I think that in support of the shrine, for example, the icon of Rublyov will be able to receive a subsidy. A very large 1.

Guys, can't you just agree that you were sent money and not touch any archaeological values? You always have to deal with some huge damage.

We have the Okhinoysk Cape, the ship. I have a rational suggestion. I'll even tell you where you can do it. Here is the Hermitage. In the Hermitage there is a huge section of ancient Russian painting.

There is a huge section of icon painting. Take everything.

Take the shrines.

It's the shrines. 1 problem is that 80% of these shrines were transferred by the tsar. Nicholas I, Alexander III, even Nicholas II. They realized that this cannot be kept in the temple because it will simply disappear.

Wow. So, a hundred years ago, they were thinking. And who made it up? Nicholas, the bloody 1, who himself was such a broken fanatic, judging by his diary. And He thought that Jesus didn't need this icon to be destroyed.

Alexander III, a man

with a small mind, thought along with Pobedonostsev. And Nikolai Palkin thought. He started to collect icons in the Hermitage. He is an

Orthodox person.

For some reason they thought and museumed cultural values. And you said no. I have a question of the degradation of the personality.

You are good gentlemen, but You are not at home. As if you came somewhere and you have to leave in a couple of days.

You need to catch

up. And you catch what you get, spoil what you get. We don't care. Your behavior scares me. Yes.

In general, everything I wanted to say about our uncultured agenda. I

think that the audience understood how good we are, how we take care of the memory of our ancestors, the

military glory,

we take care of it, and other good words. But here is not the fact that it is surprising, the fact itself, what, I should get used to it, or what, my God. People are eaten by whole echelons here, and what about some museum rarities. Here is this moment That we are just crying out loud About our great history About our original territories Our traditional values And right away,

without leaving

the cassette the same people show what is the source of traditional values, all these traces of the precious ancestors, etc.

And by the way, unity of the country is growing through this. Because it is quite obvious that we have such a single indivisible, that you can get pumped up. But at the same time, inside this single indivisible, there are people who can bite off from it and then, after biting off from the top, fill it with smoke, looking everyone in the eyes and laughing happily. Look how we can.

And who thinks that this whole story is not very necessary and what practical benefit it has... I'm trying to crush the Novikov in a straight line. When they were already smashed into dust, and they remained there. Each ship, consider yourself to yourself. Some of them, let's give up, others, somewhere, try to break further.

Most of them, as Pushkin was told, They gave up. But on 1 ship, there was a good officer. He gave me all the things. He collected everything. He read everyone.

Lectures on history. In the history of the fleet, including. So here he is, if I'm not mistaken, whether wounded or dead, already on the net, when they were offered to surrender. And these sailors, they just answered, that, Listen, the descendants of Ushakov and Nakhimov do not give up. Yeah, That's what the story is for, dear comrades.

And here, if we

treat it like this...

How do you want people to die for your primordial, and at the same time, people have to fuck this primordial? How do you imagine this? Or do you think that for the household, for all this nervousness that is happening around? Maybe you are right, by the way. Indeed.

That is, you need more nervousness and it will not be up to culture. Yes.

Well, I say, nervousness, obviously, dispatchers will bring a couple of more trucks.

Well, thank you for your attention.

You are welcome.

Thank you too. If suddenly among you, friends, There are some deputies who can file a request. It's just a disgrace. You will have a huge mercy.

And not only proletarian. Those who will be a new class in communism, will say thank you there.

Just because it is necessary to understand that this is not a heritage of Russia, but a heritage of world culture. Without exaggeration. Like the Parthenon of Athens, like Troy, like the Mycenaean Palace. So our Oksina Cape is a world-class heritage. And when we do this at home, some Euro-gay will always be able to point at us and say, you are actually going to be friends and cooperate with these people.

And he will be right in some way. That's all. Bye.