Taken from JRE #1889 w/Dr. Phil:
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We have epidemics in this country right now that people aren't paying enough attention to.

It really does because people are accidentally dying of overdoses.

It used to be if you died of an overdose it's because you did a dangerous drug, you took a very risky chance to do something that you probably knew you shouldn't be doing.

Whether it's heroin or meth or something like that.

But now people are doing things they think are fairly innocuous.

And it's laced with fentanyl and they're dying.

Well, just across the border, just south of San Diego, in October of 21, of 21, they busted a drug lab that was turning out 70 million counterfeit pills a month.

Now we don't know that they were all going to come to America, but we know a shitload of them were gonna come to America.

And the DEA's estimate is that 40% of them are laced with lethal levels of fentanyl.

That poisoning, fentanyl poisoning is the number 1 cause of death for people 18 to 49 in this country.

And what these kids need to understand, and I want people to understand this, and I don't care if you stop listening to Joe and I talk right now and go call your kid or go call your grandkids or your friends kids the chance of them first off all these pills you're buying on snapchat a hundred percent of them of counterfeit

You can buy a pill on Snapchat, and I'll show you here.

If you do, I'm gonna really be impressed.

How illegal drugs are being dangled at kids on Snapchat, Instagram, and other platforms.

I'm not reacting, I'm looking, because I've got something.

Okay, then here are the emojis that they use to advertise it with and then here is the menu

So who is this cartels that are putting these things up on Snapchat and you order them on the internet?

Fentanyl is synthetic and it's all being generated in China so if you want to be a conspiracy theorist this will get your conspiracy juices flowing are you airdrop open over there yeah Jamie's air book pro

okay I just sent you 4 pictures and they're gone so now you have them Okay, it's all being generated or synthesized in China and in China is sending it to the Sinaloa cartel And the cartel is then turning it into these pills.

And then these pills are coming into America.

And the DEA estimates that they are intercepting about 10% and what they are intercepting is enough to kill every American.

Can you make it so that little, there it goes.

So LA County delivery nationwide shipping low cost low stress highest highs.

Don 248 So look at all the stuff that they have here.

THC, crumble, snow, Adderall, 20 milligram scripts, 2.5 milligram hulks.

That's a type of pill off the top of my head.

Pharma-Pram bottles, ambient 10 milligram scripts, hydros, 10, what is a hydro?

A hydrocodone, maybe, I don't know, I think.

Yeah, now go to the, go to the emojis that I sent you.

What is that little emoji next to those 2 pills that means amex it looks like a truck what does that mean delivery

yeah I think that means they'll deliver that to your house.

You order this and they'll deliver this to your house in less than an hour.

And I've had different sets of parents on who's, these are kids that, and we do pretty good background checks on these.

I'm talking about, and the title of the show we did was 1 Pill Kills, because these were not kids that were drug addicts.

They weren't doing heroin and that sort of thing and we checked because like 1 of the girls we got her credit card information we saw she ordered 1 pill.

We went back like months or 1 pill and she wanted to get some sleep before finals.

And we found 3 quarters of the pill in her top dresser drawer.

Her parents found it and the police came.

She broke it in half and then broke it in half again.

So she took a quarter of 1 pill and they found her dead in the morning because it had so much fentanyl in it that it just killed her.

And this isn't an overdose, this is poisoning.

Well, the reason they put it in there and put this 1 up, and the reason they put it in there is because it's so highly addictive.

But they're not smart, or they don't care if they're killing a certain percentage of their customers.

Fentanyl's a synthetic opioid that is up to 50 times stronger than heroin, 100 times stronger than morphine.

So if you bite into this, you're dead when you hit the ground.

And so she took a quarter of it, boom, gone.

And Their estimate is that 40% of these pills that they're getting have lethal doses of fentanyl in them.

The ones that don't have enough in it that you are addicted like that.

So they come back for more and more and more and more.

And now there are conspiracy theorists including a former DEA guy that believes that China is manufacturing this stuff, synthesizing this stuff, sending it to the Sinaloa cartel, who's flooding it into America, and they're just trying to poison or drug Americans.

And it's interesting, he has a demo that he does.

He just takes a little packet of sweetener and dumps it in his hand and he says, that much fentanyl's enough to kill 500 people.

And we've got to get this message out to the kids.

Those pills look exactly like the pills that you get at the pharmacy.

And what they're doing now, Joe, is they're putting them in these pastel colors.

I think I sent you some of those, Jamie, in the pastel colors.

They're making them look like these candies that the kids get.

And kids are going to see these things around and pick them up and think they're like sweet tarts or whatever and bite into them.

If I was a parent, I would go to the store and buy every kind of candy I could find and as soon as my kids came home from trick-or-treating, I would take their pumpkin and dump it into the trash and then fill it back up with candy I knew was good and hand it back to them.

I wouldn't let them take a single piece of candy from trick-or-treating, because you don't know what's in there.

That was always the fear, right, when we were kids?

a razor blade into an apple or something.

there'd be a razor blade in an apple or something.

I saw this going around, but I heard a lot of people pushing back a couple days after this was made, major headlines.

There was a lot of hubbub about this viral picture because this went out, the DEA was talking about it, but then I read there was no evidence that this was real.

Well, let's scroll down and see what they say in terms of, looks like Candy, DEA Administrator Alan or Anne Milgram told CBS News, in fact, some of the drug traffickers have nicknamed it sweet tarts, skittles.

The DEA alert didn't mention Halloween but fears about rainbow fentanyl and the holiday went viral.

DEA warning meets skepticism from drug experts.

Drug policy experts contacted by NPR agree there's no new fentanyl threat this Halloween.

Many are also skeptical of the DEA's original warning.

They don't believe that Mexican drug cartels and street dealers have launched any new campaign targeting children.

I don't see any evidence that the DEA has produced that supports that conjecture.

I don't think they're targeting children.

I think the fact that they are making these things in pastel colors make children vulnerable to picking these things up.

If a child picks up something that, you know, I said that young girl that I was talking about took 3 quarters of a pill or 1 quarter of a pill and 3 quarters of it was left in her drawer.

If she has a younger sister or something that sees that, picks it up and it looks like candy and eats it, she's gone.

Yeah, I don't care if you use the word targeting or not.

It's dangerous, and I'm just saying, you know my grandkids, they won't be getting any candy out of that.

And it's not that anywhere they're going is gonna be giving out fentanyl to kids, it's just they don't know where it's coming from.

Yeah, you're not getting it from a store.

My point is, if you're in school and you're studying for finals and you're not a drug addict and you think well 1 pill is not going to hurt, that's no longer true.

You maybe think I'll get some Adderall, get me through my finals.

It won't be an overdose, it'll be a poisoning.

And if you're getting it from someone other than a pharmacy, There's a high possibility.

the DEA's belief is that all of the pills that you're getting on social media are counterfeit.

And that as much as 40% of them have fatal doses of fentanyl, lethal doses of fentanyl, because they're so unsophisticated in their mix.

So it's not a matter of poisoning as much as it's a matter of they don't give a fuck and they're just I mean They're not like accredited labs.

they're making this stuff up in a bathtub They're making it up in a in a yeah, I'm mixing it up and then they're putting it in a pill press and letting it dry and shipping it over here.

Today on CNN, they said they arrested some, it was either CNN or Fox, 1 of the 2, they arrested some 14 year olds coming across the border and they had a couple of thousand pills on them.


Speaker 0: The Jerogan Experience

Speaker 1: We have epidemics in this country right now that people aren't paying enough attention to.

Speaker 0: Well the fentanyl epidemic. That 1 scares the shit out of me.

Speaker 1: Man.

Speaker 0: That 1 scares the shit out of me. It really does because people are accidentally dying of overdoses. It used to be if you died of an overdose it's because you did a dangerous drug, you took a very risky chance to do something that you probably knew you shouldn't be doing. Whether it's heroin or meth or something like that. But now people are doing things they think are fairly innocuous.

And it's laced with fentanyl and they're dying.

Speaker 1: Well, just across the border, just south of San Diego, in October of 21, of 21, they busted a drug lab that was turning out 70 million counterfeit pills a month. 1 lab. 70 million counterfeit pills a month. Now we don't know that they were all going to come to America, but we know a shitload of them were gonna come to America. And the DEA's estimate is that 40% of them are laced with lethal levels of fentanyl.

Speaker 0: 40%. 40%

Speaker 1: are laced with lethal doses of fentanyl.

Speaker 0: That poisoning, fentanyl poisoning is the number 1 cause of death for people 18 to 49 in this country.

Speaker 1: Yeah. And think about that. And what these kids need to understand, and I want people to understand this, and I don't care if you stop listening to Joe and I talk right now and go call your kid or go call your grandkids or your friends kids the chance of them first off all these pills you're buying on snapchat a hundred percent of them of counterfeit

Speaker 0: they're buying pills on snapchat

Speaker 1: they're oh they're buying

Speaker 0: how does that work

Speaker 1: You can buy a pill on Snapchat, and I'll show you here. Let me pull this up. I know Jamie can't beat me to this. If you do, I'm gonna really be impressed.

Speaker 0: He's got it.

Speaker 1: No, he doesn't either. Bullshit. I'm 1 of the...

Speaker 0: Snapchat drug dealers. How illegal drugs are being dangled at kids on Snapchat, Instagram, and other platforms. Scroll down.

Speaker 2: I was seeing if he was gonna react.

Speaker 1: No, I'm not reacting. I'm not reacting, I'm looking, because I've got something. Okay, here we go. See these Xanax bars here?

Speaker 0: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Maybe I can send this to Jamie. Okay, then here are the emojis that they use to advertise it with and then here is the menu

Speaker 0: So who is this cartels that are putting these things up on Snapchat and you order them on the internet?

Speaker 1: Yeah here's the deal. Fentanyl is synthetic and it's all being generated in China so if you want to be a conspiracy theorist this will get your conspiracy juices flowing are you airdrop open over there yeah Jamie's air book pro

Speaker 2: yes

Speaker 1: okay I just sent you 4 pictures and they're gone so now you have them Okay, it's all being generated or synthesized in China and in China is sending it to the Sinaloa cartel And the cartel is then turning it into these pills. And then these pills are coming into America. And the DEA estimates that they are intercepting about 10% and what they are intercepting is enough to kill every American. Jesus Christ. The fentanyl is enough to kill.

So here's the menu. Every American.

Speaker 0: LA County delivery. It's like. Can you make it so that little, there it goes. So LA County delivery nationwide shipping low cost low stress highest highs. Dr.

Don guarantee Mr. Don 248 So look at all the stuff that they have here. Perks, GMO, OG, gas and edibles. What does that mean?

Speaker 2: That's probably weed.

Speaker 0: Gas? Really? Yeah. THC, crumble, snow, Adderall, 20 milligram scripts, 2.5 milligram hulks. What are those?

What's a hulk?

Speaker 2: That's a type of pill off the top of my head. I wouldn't know, but I'm not.

Speaker 0: Pharma-Pram bottles, ambient 10 milligram scripts, hydros, 10, what is a hydro?

Speaker 2: A hydrocodone, maybe, I don't know, I think.

Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Yeah, now go to the, go to the emojis that I sent you. It's 1 of the images I sent. And this is how they communicate. Percocet, oxycodone,

Speaker 0: so they have these different emojis

Speaker 1: in combination.

Speaker 0: Yeah. Mean different things. What is that little emoji next to those 2 pills that means amex it looks like a truck what does that mean delivery

Speaker 1: yeah I think that means they'll deliver that to your house. This is like Postmates. Wow. You order this and they'll deliver this to your house in less than an hour. And I've had different sets of parents on who's, these are kids that, and we do pretty good background checks on these.

I'm talking about, and the title of the show we did was 1 Pill Kills, because these were not kids that were drug addicts. They weren't doing heroin and that sort of thing and we checked because like 1 of the girls we got her credit card information we saw she ordered 1 pill. We went back like months or 1 pill and she wanted to get some sleep before finals. And we found 3 quarters of the pill in her top dresser drawer. Her parents found it and the police came.

She broke it in half and then broke it in half again. So she took a quarter of 1 pill and they found her dead in the morning because it had so much fentanyl in it that it just killed her. And this isn't an overdose, this is poisoning. You wanna be a conspirator. Do you

Speaker 0: think this is Purposeful?

Speaker 1: Well, the reason they put it in there and put this 1 up, and the reason they put it in there is because it's so highly addictive. But they're not smart, or they don't care if they're killing a certain percentage of their customers. But here's the deal. Fentanyl's a synthetic opioid that is up to 50 times stronger than heroin, 100 times stronger than morphine. So if you bite into this, you're dead when you hit the ground.

And so she took a quarter of it, boom, gone. And Their estimate is that 40% of these pills that they're getting have lethal doses of fentanyl in them. The ones that don't have enough in it that you are addicted like that. So they come back for more and more and more and more. And now there are conspiracy theorists including a former DEA guy that believes that China is manufacturing this stuff, synthesizing this stuff, sending it to the Sinaloa cartel, who's flooding it into America, and they're just trying to poison or drug Americans.

It's just another attack. He believes it's a terrorist attack. And it's interesting, he has a demo that he does. He just takes a little packet of sweetener and dumps it in his hand and he says, that much fentanyl's enough to kill 500 people. It's just, It's staggering.

And we've got to get this message out to the kids. Don't do it. Those pills look exactly like the pills that you get at the pharmacy. And what they're doing now, Joe, is they're putting them in these pastel colors. I think I sent you some of those, Jamie, in the pastel colors.

They're making them look like these candies that the kids get. And kids are going to see these things around and pick them up and think they're like sweet tarts or whatever and bite into them. If I was a parent, I would go to the store and buy every kind of candy I could find and as soon as my kids came home from trick-or-treating, I would take their pumpkin and dump it into the trash and then fill it back up with candy I knew was good and hand it back to them. I wouldn't let them take a single piece of candy from trick-or-treating, because you don't know what's in there.

Speaker 0: That was always the fear, right, when we were kids? That someone was gonna sneak

Speaker 1: a razor blade into an apple or something. We thought

Speaker 2: there'd be a razor blade in an apple or something. I saw this going around, but I heard a lot of people pushing back a couple days after this was made, major headlines.

Speaker 0: Because they

Speaker 2: were showing.

Speaker 0: Experts say no. Who's the expert?

Speaker 2: There was a lot of hubbub about this viral picture because this went out, the DEA was talking about it, but then I read there was no evidence that this was real. That's what I read.

Speaker 0: Well, let's scroll down and see what they say in terms of, looks like Candy, DEA Administrator Alan or Anne Milgram told CBS News, in fact, some of the drug traffickers have nicknamed it sweet tarts, skittles. The DEA alert didn't mention Halloween but fears about rainbow fentanyl and the holiday went viral. DEA warning meets skepticism from drug experts. Drug policy experts contacted by NPR agree there's no new fentanyl threat this Halloween. Many are also skeptical of the DEA's original warning.

They don't believe that Mexican drug cartels and street dealers have launched any new campaign targeting children. I don't see any evidence that the DEA has produced that supports that conjecture.

Speaker 1: I don't think they're targeting children. I think the fact that they are making these things in pastel colors make children vulnerable to picking these things up. You wanna argue over the word targeting? If a child picks up something that, you know, I said that young girl that I was talking about took 3 quarters of a pill or 1 quarter of a pill and 3 quarters of it was left in her drawer. If she has a younger sister or something that sees that, picks it up and it looks like candy and eats it, she's gone.

Right. I'm not saying they're targeting.

Speaker 0: I'm not saying they're targeting.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care if you use the word targeting or not. It's dangerous, and I'm just saying, you know my grandkids, they won't be getting any candy out of that. And it's not that anywhere they're going is gonna be giving out fentanyl to kids, it's just they don't know where it's coming from.

Speaker 0: Yeah, you're not getting it from a store.

Speaker 1: And that makes it dangerous. My point is, if you're in school and you're studying for finals and you're not a drug addict and you think well 1 pill is not going to hurt, that's no longer true. You maybe think I'll get some Adderall, get me through my finals. That could be a fatal decision. It won't be an overdose, it'll be a poisoning.

It's very dangerous.

Speaker 0: And if you're getting it from someone other than a pharmacy, There's a high possibility. Well,

Speaker 1: the DEA's belief is that all of the pills that you're getting on social media are counterfeit. And that as much as 40% of them have fatal doses of fentanyl, lethal doses of fentanyl, because they're so unsophisticated in their mix.

Speaker 0: So it's not a matter of poisoning as much as it's a matter of they don't give a fuck and they're just I mean They're not like accredited labs. These people are just mixing shit up and

Speaker 1: they're making this stuff up in a bathtub They're making it up in a in a yeah, I'm mixing it up and then they're putting it in a pill press and letting it dry and shipping it over here. Today on CNN, they said they arrested some, it was either CNN or Fox, 1 of the 2, they arrested some 14 year olds coming across the border and they had a couple of thousand pills on them. And who knows where it came from? Who knows what else is in it.

Speaker 0: Thank you. Have a great day. Bye.

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