Taken from JRE #1922 w/Sam & Colby:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4HHvaEznBwQX8vVTWSIEjj?si=6c1b1caaed11410d

was really interesting is we did a lot of the Abandoned stuff, but every once in a while we would do like a haunted thing, because those creepy stories and, you know, the lore of everything is really interesting, whether or not you believe it or not.

At that time, we didn't really believe in any of the ghost stuff.

We're like, all right, but this is gonna be a great video because everyone loves telling the stories.

But We just got, I don't know what it was, but someone forwarded us something saying that for the first time in 30 years, the Queen Mary in Long Beach, which is like 1 of the most haunted ships, like New York Times, like top 10 most haunted places in the world.

Yeah, for a while they had a regular comedy night there on the Queen Mary.

Yeah, I didn't realize how famous it was, but they have that, they have haunted houses, they have a ton of different attractions there.

But there's this 1 room, B340, that hadn't been open for 30 years, and allegedly they closed it down because there's multiple unexplained murders and or suicides in that room.

And we're like, whoa, This is the first week this is open after 30 years This is gonna be an amazing like story to tell or you know video film And so we went in there trying to make something or like trying to get something We obviously didn't really believe in that much.

So we're like, alright, let's just see if that happens If there's gonna be a haunted location, it'll be this We toured around did the whole thing weren't getting much and we're kind of frustrated at that point because we're like, all right, this is supposed to be the cream of the crop.

And so It was 04:00 in the morning at this time.

We've been trying for hours of just sitting in circles, like asking out, saying okay.

And we didn't have any equipment at this time.

This is like the first place we ever went to, so we were just like meandering like the hallways, being like, is anything here?

Yeah, like just trying to get something to happen on camera, and nothing was happening.

And so we're like, fine, I guess, let's do this.

Like, it's fun to tell the story, let's just leave.

And so we turn off the camera, start packing up.

And as soon as we turn, like, actually we're about to like get out of the room, the faucet turns on full blast for 4 seconds and then turns back off.

And we all actually freeze and freak out.

2 of our roommates that were there at the time just immediately started crying.

We ran in, we were like, okay, how is that actually possible at all?

Maybe that's a sign of like, it doesn't wanna be filmed, and it doesn't want us to leave.

So maybe let's just not film this, and try 1 more time, just for the heck of it.

And to like the weirdest extent, we just like put away all of our cameras, We sat in the most serious tone saying, okay guys, before this, didn't really believe, so if this is happening, let's have something happen.

And so we all sit in the dark together and we start calling out questions.

And we're like, okay, is there anybody here?

And so we're like, okay, maybe that's something.

And so we're like, okay, let's just run with that.

Like, is it possible that someone could have heard you from another room?

So, going, like, we were talking probably like this, but then there was times where we'd talk, like, really quiet and like, we tested everything.

But, so what we did is we decided let's ask questions using these taps So we said tap once for yes tap anything more than once for no We had a yes or no Conversation for 35 minutes with something that we cannot explain and we did everything because we were skeptical at

We didn't think so But apparently 1 of our friends he's like super religious was like hey no matter what the entire night he was keeping an audio recording in his pocket.

So if there was something there, it didn't know either.

Yeah, we had no idea he had pulled that out.

Like, we genuinely were like, OK, no one's filming.

We even say in this audio recording, like, no one's filming.

Like, everyone, please, like, be serious about this.

And so we had this conversation back and forth and we tried to trick it.

You know, like we would ask questions in different manners, like okay, is there more than 1 of you?

Back and forth trying to get this thing in this the story kept straight the entire time And we were like there could be someone like screwing with us This is like on you know the news of being like haunted place like what's going on?

Well, what was crazy about it too is all the knocks They weren't just coming from 1 1 section that would make sense if like maybe something outside Was like tapping these knocks would be like below us and then above us to our sides Some would be louder than other ones We went out to the hallway a couple times and we realized that we were like the last room besides like this like utility room to our left.

And obviously we had like basically that whole like floor to ourselves as well since it was super late.

Yeah and then like sometime in the middle we were like, like okay, like let's like ask a question under a breath.

Like okay, like this thing does not want us to leave.

And at that moment, the entire floor shook.

We were all like, oh my god, what was that?

Crashing on the ship or something was huge.

And so we're like, OK, so this thing doesn't want us to leave.

Maybe we should just ask questions under our breath for the rest of the time, just so we know it's not some employee, it's not someone screwing with us the entire time.

We were like, OK, we've had a bunch of conversations.

At this point, we really believe, if this is truly something, I want to know something about something deeper than just yes or no questions or just like something silly of like how many people are here.

And at that point, our 2 religious friends that were there, like, immediately jumped up and said, we have to leave right now.

Like I'll tell you in the car like dude, like just don't look back.

Let's leave And so we walked out we left we got all the way to the car without anyone saying anything And as soon as we got in the car, we're like what's going on?

He's like well in the Christian religion the anything like demonic or evil is supposed to, like, basically disprove that there is a heaven, you know, and so what they were saying is like, we don't think this is some like spirit or something paranormal there.

We think it was something that was trying to lead you away from heaven

But that also just depends on what you believe in.

Obviously like our roommates were very, very Christian, very religious And so when they heard the knocks saying no They thought it was just kind of like a sign from like a demon to like steer us away from from God saying like this does not exist and so They without question ran before we could even like we kind of were wanting to stay there to ask more things

Because this is your first experience with anything paranormal.

There has been plenty of times where we hear things or like, you know, things are scary.

In like the abandoned places, but there are also decrepit old places that creak and stuff.

so Up into that point Did you believe in ghosts before and like what is that?

What is the feeling like when you have to sort of process the end of that day?

So that was a monumental change in not only like our career, but also like our at least my like thought process in life because Yes, I had the idea that maybe something else is out there.

I had grown up a Christian, but at that time, we had gone to so many scary places.

We'd tackled a bunch of life questions, philosophical questions throughout our time together, and we were like, okay, after asking about it, for me, I was losing faith in something else.

I was like, okay, maybe we're just the only things out here.

And after that moment, I had a full-on breakdown the next day.

I was like, everything that I had thought was not real now becomes real.

And I had pretty much lost any sort of faith at that point, but there was even a video of me online like sitting on my bedroom floor I crying to camera saying I truly didn't believe and now this instance opens up this whole world Like maybe I don't immediately believe a hundred percent but the question of if there's something else out there is now back in my brain and I want to chase that and so after the whole arrest and going to the haunted stuff That was like it wasn't necessarily like a thousand percent believers the second we like had this experience, but it was so intriguing because it was 1 of those things that we couldn't explain.

We told this story so many times and the audio of this actually happening, the Knox is online, so many people don't believe it because they weren't there and we wouldn't believe it if we weren't there.

And so we understand that people don't believe us when we talk about these things.

However, just the idea that it could be real and the idea that it could happen again is what's so intriguing and is why we got into it.

We're like, okay, if we can just keep doing this and keep getting more and more proof, like that feeling of hope of like, okay, there is something else out there.

And it is not just, okay, we're just going to live and die here on the planet.

No matter what you believe in, no matter what religion you have.

It's like we realized that that experience for us, it taught us that there is something else.

And we wanted to spread that message as well to as many people as possible.

But your roommates thought it was demonic.

They were, they took like the Christian route.

And that's, again, That's up to whoever is viewing this or experiencing it themselves.

Did you feel like it was a demon or did you feel like it was a ghost or dead people?

I don't know at the time I definitely thought it was like a demon because these 2 guys are like yelling at me I'm like dude, this is 100% without a shadow of a doubt like a demon and I'm like, well I don't know exactly what I believe in like this is already like rattling my brain right now But it was scary and what was what was scarier Is trying to go back into it and repeating the process because like we didn't know what we're messing with if it was a demon Like hell, maybe if it is all real are we?

Just screwing ourselves over by like going and are

How many times did you guys go to the Queen Mary?

Our final stint, which was actually last year, We hadn't gone back in 3 years, but we wanted to like the the Queen Mary actually shut down which was said Last year they lost like funding and whatever

They're trying to Like raise money and like get it back up.

so we thought this was the last time we'd ever see the ship So we're like, let's go say goodbye to the thing that literally started this whole adventure for us And so Koba now went back alone room b340

But again, that's all alleged as well Like who knows if it's like a marketing ploy and again We were so skeptical that like Sam and I when those knocks first started to happen like we were

like looking under things We're like this room has to be bugged see

if you can find anything about that room Find anything about the Queen Mary Room 340 yeah, it's a b3 40 340 so they told you that there was multiple murders that took place in that room

just like an hour away from killing your roommates.

Well they have literally experiences of each like different family.

Yeah so anytime someone has like a crazy experience that they deem notable, They'll write it on the wall.

There's our there's our thumbnail Yeah, and they have Instructions to do bloody it's definitely cheesy a little bit like they have

the Bloody Mary like Bloody Mary What what does that mean?

So Bloody Mary is like this challenge that a lot of people used to do as children or whatever.

You go in front of a mirror, turn the light off, have 1 candle, spin around 3 times while saying Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary.

But there's a lot of stories all over the...

And so this room, is there any documentation that people actually died in that room?

Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm curious, because when we went there, Again, we were very different than where we're at now.

What we did is we would take the article that it says it is, but obviously we're not going back and fact checking that, and then we'd go and talk to the employees.

And so most of our stories were all first-hand encounters with the employees that were there, or things that they would tell us, rather than, you know, newspapers.


Speaker 0: The Jorogun Experience.

Speaker 1: So tell me about the Queen Mary. That's the beginning for you guys.

Speaker 2: That's the number 1 origin.

Speaker 1: You went there to do what? So what

Speaker 0: was really interesting is we did a lot of the Abandoned stuff, but every once in a while we would do like a haunted thing, because those creepy stories and, you know, the lore of everything is really interesting, whether or not you believe it or not. At that time, we didn't really believe in any of the ghost stuff. We're like, all right, but this is gonna be a great video because everyone loves telling the stories. But We just got, I don't know what it was, but someone forwarded us something saying that for the first time in 30 years, the Queen Mary in Long Beach, which is like 1 of the most haunted ships, like New York Times, like top 10 most haunted places in the world.

Speaker 1: We filmed Fear Factor there once. Really?

Speaker 0: Yeah. That's great. It's a beautiful ship.

Speaker 1: They do a comedy show there sometimes.

Speaker 0: No way.

Speaker 1: Yeah, for a while they had a regular comedy night there on the Queen Mary.

Speaker 0: Yeah, I didn't realize how famous it was, but they have that, they have haunted houses, they have a ton of different attractions there. But there's this 1 room, B340, that hadn't been open for 30 years, and allegedly they closed it down because there's multiple unexplained murders and or suicides in that room. And we're like, whoa, This is the first week this is open after 30 years This is gonna be an amazing like story to tell or you know video film And so we went in there trying to make something or like trying to get something We obviously didn't really believe in that much. So we're like, alright, let's just see if that happens If there's gonna be a haunted location, it'll be this We toured around did the whole thing weren't getting much and we're kind of frustrated at that point because we're like, all right, this is supposed to be the cream of the crop. This is supposed to be the big wig.

Why can't we get something to happen? And so It was 04:00 in the morning at this time. We've been trying for hours of just sitting in circles, like asking out, saying okay.

Speaker 2: And we didn't have any equipment at this time.

Speaker 3: This is like the first place we ever went to, so we were just like meandering like the hallways, being like, is anything here?

Speaker 0: Yeah, like just trying to get something to happen on camera, and nothing was happening. And so we're like, fine, I guess, let's do this. Let's just like leave. Like, it's fun to tell the story, let's just leave. And so we turn off the camera, start packing up.

We start walking towards the door. And as soon as we turn, like, actually we're about to like get out of the room, the faucet turns on full blast for 4 seconds and then turns back off. And we all actually freeze and freak out. 2 of our roommates that were there at the time just immediately started crying. We ran in, we were like, okay, how is that actually possible at all?

Maybe that's a sign of like, it doesn't wanna be filmed, and it doesn't want us to leave. So maybe let's just not film this, and try 1 more time, just for the heck of it. And so that's what we did. But this time it worked. And to like the weirdest extent, we just like put away all of our cameras, We sat in the most serious tone saying, okay guys, before this, didn't really believe, so if this is happening, let's have something happen.

And so we all sit in the dark together and we start calling out questions. And we're like, okay, is there anybody here? And we hear a knock. And so we're like, okay, maybe that's something.

Speaker 2: Very faint, though. It was like a tap.

Speaker 0: Like a tap. And so we're like, okay, let's just run with that. Can you tap more than once? And there was like 3 taps. We're like, okay, this is really weird.

Like, can we start asking questions? And this-

Speaker 1: And how loud are you saying this? Like, is it possible that someone could have heard you from another room?

Speaker 0: That's what we thought. So, going, like, we were talking probably like this, but then there was times where we'd talk, like, really quiet and like, we tested everything. But, so what we did is we decided let's ask questions using these taps So we said tap once for yes tap anything more than once for no We had a yes or no Conversation for 35 minutes with something that we cannot explain and we did everything because we were skeptical at

Speaker 1: this Did you film any of this?

Speaker 0: We didn't think so But apparently 1 of our friends he's like super religious was like hey no matter what the entire night he was keeping an audio recording in his pocket.

Speaker 2: We had no idea.

Speaker 0: We had no idea that he was doing that.

Speaker 2: So nobody talked about it. So if there was something there, it didn't know either.

Speaker 0: Yeah, we had no idea he had pulled that out. Like, we genuinely were like, OK, no one's filming. We even say in this audio recording, like, no one's filming. There's no bullshit. Like, everyone, please, like, be serious about this.

And so we had this conversation back and forth and we tried to trick it. You know, like we would ask questions in different manners, like okay, is there more than 1 of you? Yes. And then we'd say, are you alone? And it would say no.

Back and forth trying to get this thing in this the story kept straight the entire time And we were like there could be someone like screwing with us This is like on you know the news of being like haunted place like what's going on?

Speaker 2: Well, what was crazy about it too is all the knocks They weren't just coming from 1 1 section that would make sense if like maybe something outside Was like tapping these knocks would be like below us and then above us to our sides Some would be louder than other ones We went out to the hallway a couple times and we realized that we were like the last room besides like this like utility room to our left. And obviously we had like basically that whole like floor to ourselves as well since it was super late.

Speaker 0: Yeah and then like sometime in the middle we were like, like okay, like let's like ask a question under a breath. Yeah. Like okay, like this thing does not want us to leave. And at that moment, the entire floor shook. Boom.

We were all like, oh my god, what was that?

Speaker 3: You could

Speaker 2: feel the vibration in your feet.

Speaker 0: Crashing on the ship or something was huge. And so we're like, OK, so this thing doesn't want us to leave. Maybe we should just ask questions under our breath for the rest of the time, just so we know it's not some employee, it's not someone screwing with us the entire time. So fast forward to the very end. We were like, OK, we've had a bunch of conversations.

At this point, we really believe, if this is truly something, I want to know something about something deeper than just yes or no questions or just like something silly of like how many people are here. So I decided, let's ask about religion. And I ask out, is there a heaven? And it knocks 3 times, meaning no. And at that point, our 2 religious friends that were there, like, immediately jumped up and said, we have to leave right now.

Speaker 2: We had no idea

Speaker 0: why what's going on? Like I'll tell you in the car like dude, like just don't look back. Let's go. Let's leave And so we walked out we left we got all the way to the car without anyone saying anything And as soon as we got in the car, we're like what's going on? Like, why do we have to leave?

He's like well in the Christian religion the anything like demonic or evil is supposed to, like, basically disprove that there is a heaven, you know, and so what they were saying is like, we don't think this is some like spirit or something paranormal there. We think it was something that was trying to lead you away from heaven

Speaker 2: or Christianity. Demonic territory type thing. But that also just depends on what you believe in. Obviously like our roommates were very, very Christian, very religious And so when they heard the knocks saying no They thought it was just kind of like a sign from like a demon to like steer us away from from God saying like this does not exist and so They without question ran before we could even like we kind of were wanting to stay there to ask more things

Speaker 0: It was really interesting

Speaker 1: Because this is your first experience with anything paranormal.

Speaker 0: Well, first very believable 1. There has been plenty of times where we hear things or like, you know, things are scary.

Speaker 2: In like the abandoned places, but there are also decrepit old places that creak and stuff.

Speaker 1: Yeah, old dark places make you freak out

Speaker 2: This is the first conversation. We should say that we've had

Speaker 1: so Up into that point Did you believe in ghosts before and like what is that? What is the feeling like when you have to sort of process the end of that day?

Speaker 0: So that was a monumental change in not only like our career, but also like our at least my like thought process in life because Yes, I had the idea that maybe something else is out there. I had grown up a Christian, but at that time, we had gone to so many scary places. We'd tackled a bunch of life questions, philosophical questions throughout our time together, and we were like, okay, after asking about it, for me, I was losing faith in something else. I was like, okay, maybe we're just the only things out here. And after that moment, I had a full-on breakdown the next day.

I was like, everything that I had thought was not real now becomes real. And I had pretty much lost any sort of faith at that point, but there was even a video of me online like sitting on my bedroom floor I crying to camera saying I truly didn't believe and now this instance opens up this whole world Like maybe I don't immediately believe a hundred percent but the question of if there's something else out there is now back in my brain and I want to chase that and so after the whole arrest and going to the haunted stuff That was like it wasn't necessarily like a thousand percent believers the second we like had this experience, but it was so intriguing because it was 1 of those things that we couldn't explain. We told this story so many times and the audio of this actually happening, the Knox is online, so many people don't believe it because they weren't there and we wouldn't believe it if we weren't there. And so we understand that people don't believe us when we talk about these things. However, just the idea that it could be real and the idea that it could happen again is what's so intriguing and is why we got into it.

We're like, okay, if we can just keep doing this and keep getting more and more proof, like that feeling of hope of like, okay, there is something else out there. And it is not just, okay, we're just going to live and die here on the planet. It's so special.

Speaker 2: No matter what you believe in, no matter what religion you have. It's like we realized that that experience for us, it taught us that there is something else. It's more spiritual than anything. And we wanted to spread that message as well to as many people as possible. Again, no matter what they believed in.

Speaker 1: But your roommates thought it was demonic.

Speaker 2: They were, they took like the Christian route. And that's, again, That's up to whoever is viewing this or experiencing it themselves. But yeah, they they took it very

Speaker 1: well How did you feel? Did you feel like it was a demon or did you feel like it was a ghost or dead people? What do you think it was?

Speaker 0: I don't know at the time I definitely thought it was like a demon because these 2 guys are like yelling at me I'm like dude, this is 100% without a shadow of a doubt like a demon and I'm like, well I don't know exactly what I believe in like this is already like rattling my brain right now But it was scary and what was what was scarier Is trying to go back into it and repeating the process because like we didn't know what we're messing with if it was a demon Like hell, maybe if it is all real are we? Just screwing ourselves over by like going and are

Speaker 1: you inviting that thing into your life? How many times did you guys go to the Queen Mary?

Speaker 3: 3, 4 times?

Speaker 0: Yeah, 3 or 4 times.

Speaker 1: So you went back after that?

Speaker 2: We did.

Speaker 1: Did you leave the roommates at home?

Speaker 0: At that point, yeah.

Speaker 1: We did, we did.

Speaker 0: Our final stint, which was actually last year, We hadn't gone back in 3 years, but we wanted to like the the Queen Mary actually shut down which was said Last year they lost like funding and whatever

Speaker 2: There might be opening up now.

Speaker 0: They're trying to Like raise money and like get it back up.

Speaker 2: But yeah,

Speaker 0: so we thought this was the last time we'd ever see the ship So we're like, let's go say goodbye to the thing that literally started this whole adventure for us And so Koba now went back alone room b340

Speaker 2: same room alone. They rent

Speaker 1: that room out to Anybody

Speaker 2: they do now they do now but

Speaker 1: 30 years they didn't for

Speaker 0: 30 years

Speaker 3: We were like

Speaker 2: the first people to get to it.

Speaker 1: That's so crazy years

Speaker 2: But again, that's all alleged as well Like who knows if it's like a marketing ploy and again We were so skeptical that like Sam and I when those knocks first started to happen like we were

Speaker 3: like looking under things We're like this room has to be bugged see

Speaker 1: if you can find anything about that room Find anything about the Queen Mary Room 340 yeah, it's a b3 40 340 so they told you that there was multiple murders that took place in that room

Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you guys are

Speaker 1: just like an hour away from killing your roommates. Oh my God,

Speaker 0: yeah, like if we kept going

Speaker 1: at it.

Speaker 0: 1 more house, kept asking questions. He just turns on

Speaker 1: us. Bam! He just starts talking to you. That's what the room looks like. This is the room?

Speaker 0: Oh God, it gives me chills.

Speaker 1: What does it say on the wall? So you can scripture?

Speaker 2: Well they have literally experiences of each like different family.

Speaker 0: Yeah there's a ton of. Oh my

Speaker 1: God, so it's like openly haunted.

Speaker 0: Yeah so anytime someone has like a crazy experience that they deem notable, They'll write it on the wall. There's our there's our thumbnail Yeah, and they have Instructions to do bloody it's definitely cheesy a little bit like they have

Speaker 1: the Bloody Mary like Bloody Mary What what does that mean?

Speaker 0: So Bloody Mary is like this challenge that a lot of people used to do as children or whatever. You go in front of a mirror, turn the light off, have 1 candle, spin around 3 times while saying Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary.

Speaker 1: Oh, so it's Candyman.

Speaker 0: Exactly, Candyman, yeah. So it's the evolution of Candyman. And so that's gimmicky, obviously. But there's a lot of stories all over the...

Speaker 1: That's 1 that turned on, yeah. And so this room, is there any documentation that people actually died in that room?

Speaker 0: Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm curious, because when we went there, Again, we were very different than where we're at now. We didn't do super extensive research. What we did is we would take the article that it says it is, but obviously we're not going back and fact checking that, and then we'd go and talk to the employees. And so most of our stories were all first-hand encounters with the employees that were there, or things that they would tell us, rather than, you know, newspapers. And the

Speaker 1: employees seem to believe it.

Speaker 2: No, every employee we've met pretty much at all these haunted places are true believers.

Speaker 3: Those are the ones that said they could see stuff following us. So yeah, people that work there are super into the paranormal and stuff.

Speaker 1: That's what's fucked, right? Because there's only a handful of those people that are there day in day out

Speaker 2: Right right

Speaker 1: like and you can dismiss that

Speaker 0: Or it's like

Speaker 1: or it might be real

Speaker 2: right.

Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's just the thing that gnaws at me it's like it's so easy to dismiss ghosts. Oh, ghosts are bullshit. But the problem is there's so many people that say they've seen it over so many years. Literally hundreds and hundreds of years.

It makes you wonder, as if there are multiple dimensions and if life is, if you are a physical body that's carrying around a soul, like where does that thing go?

Speaker 0: Yeah, if energy doesn't die, where does it all go?

Speaker 1: And what happens if something horrible takes place, like there's some crazy traumatic moment, gunshots and stab wounds, and like Where does that soul go? Is it possible that things get trapped in between worlds and that these people that work in these places or you

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