Taken from JRE #1929 w/Louis CK:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/177plfcE2xWKrOJUfnn13S?si=3189cb33e78e4833

The thing I'm excited about, I don't have to bring it back to my stupid plug, but the garden show.

I haven't been, I used to do what it was normal to do the garden for me before, which is not a good thing.

I remember Chris Rock saying to me once after a show at the garden, he's like, you, you like, this is like a club for you where you try shit out now 5 times in a week.

I just take the subway take the C train up do the garden and leave like I don't party after I

but it's still that went away and I hadn't been there for a while but now to me this 1 show there is like this is very exciting thought

just do 1 and the set of prepared for it is not a rock star set.

It's it's pretty gritty It's pretty I mean it all kills.

been working on it since so there's a lot of new stuff.

Yeah, but it's the idea of being surrounded by these 18,000 people in this in this elite arena and Saying some of this stuff, but but also knowing that I've crafted it so it's not just reckless.

You know I'm yeah, I'm really I'm really excited if I don't 38 years and coming I don't get that excited But I'm really

excited for it, too I love that you've made this return and then you know, you experienced a Bunch of resistance, but now it's kind of gone.

yeah and now you're you're Doing shit that's really being recognized like you want a fucking Emmy.

Yeah, I got a Grammy I got A1A Grammy Grammy since I came back.

that was amazing It's nice and I think you want a Grammy for the special this it was very funny But I think the next 1 was but I think sorry was even better.

really do sorry that got nominated for a Grammy, so we'll see what happens.

I got so angry when people were calling out your That leak set.

it was like that's what he's always done This is great stuff.

but not only that you hadn't didn't stand up in 10 months I'm like, this is the this is the seeds of a fantastic hour.

And you're only seeing like literally the first couple

of times he's even said these things aloud in public.

I literally was having a Conversation with another comedian and came up with the bits and went on the stage and did them So it was the first time I'd done them and I I just got so excited to be back on stage Because I had taken a long time off and it was and there was resistance coming back but I was it was I was in a club with my crowd for the first time and so I was it was the only thing I regret is it was reckless because my life was very precarious things were tough and things were tough for my kids so that created a bigger huge stink bomb than anything else that even happened

yeah the set was really really hard So I Given how things were I probably could have made jokes about a couple other things.

do I've always done this the way it works is I say stuff that is the wrong thing to say I hear the resistance to it And then I and then I work with it and work with it and it takes a few shows For it to be a safe bit to do but there's a few audiences that that you know And that audience actually didn't didn't mind it, but it's not for regular consumption.

It's like watching somebody practice piano and going like, he sucks.

I think it's really bad That we don't have these barriers anymore where there's speech that's for these few people there's speech that we're gonna we're gonna have a Fun conversation where we're gonna get a little crazy.

Well, what was infuriating to me was people that know that they know what you're saying Yeah, and they went after you I was like you motherfucker Yeah, there's people that I won't talk to you know this day because of that

like I'm not talking to you like unless you want to make some like big public apology Or you want to apologize to me And tell me why you did it and what real feelings of insecurity and jealousy But nobody can

Tim Dillon put a great post on his page about what's really going on Yeah, put a great post on his Instagram, and that's when I became friends with Tim

He wrote you're getting a bunch of people that are mediocre comedians

and that are attacking him not really because of what he's saying, but because he's great and because they hate the fact that he was getting any attention at all and that it should be theirs, and now they find some chance to move up in the social structure.

to me all of that is totally true And it's makes me understand it in other words.

It makes me go like All right, if that's what you need to do this which that's what you got to do.

It's it's a I would prefer to hang out with somebody who doesn't need to do that But I get it.

I can't be around them because no I understand you can do that again You could do that to her You know it's like having a snake in the room Are you gonna have a snake in the room as long as

Aside from my shit the thing that was a drag to me about comedy in the last few years was people who, any comedian who's out in the world saying that comedians shouldn't be saying these things, that's a traitor to comedy.

They've learned some tricks so they can run good and they might have a big audience But they're not they don't love this right and they are that's a fucked up thing to do

It's a fucked up thing to do and it's always coming from a place of jealousy.

Yes, and also it's never always happening to somebody who's already deeply besieged.

When you see the whole world coming down on somebody for something they said, and then you go, man, I'm going to say the same thing.

That has nothing to do with how you really feel about what they said.

It's just that you want to be heard in your circle saying it also, because you see that you can get a little something from it.


Speaker 0: The Jerogen experience.

Speaker 1: The thing I'm excited about, I don't have to bring it back to my stupid plug, but the garden show. I haven't been, I used to do what it was normal to do the garden for me before, which is not a good thing. Right.

Speaker 2: Like

Speaker 1: I remember Chris Rock saying to me once after a show at the garden, he's like, you, you like, this is like a club for you where you try shit out now 5 times in a week. I just take the subway take the C train up do the garden and leave like I don't party after I

Speaker 2: just right, right,

Speaker 1: but it's still that went away and I hadn't been there for a while but now to me this 1 show there is like this is very exciting thought

Speaker 2: Yeah to

Speaker 1: just do 1 and the set of prepared for it is not a rock star set. It's it's pretty gritty It's pretty I mean it all kills.

Speaker 2: It's similar to what I saw at the creek. Yeah, I've

Speaker 1: been working on it since so there's a lot of new stuff. Yeah, but it's the idea of being surrounded by these 18,000 people in this in this elite arena and Saying some of this stuff, but but also knowing that I've crafted it so it's not just reckless. You know I'm yeah, I'm really I'm really excited if I don't 38 years and coming I don't get that excited But I'm really

Speaker 2: excited for it, too I love that you've made this return and then you know, you experienced a Bunch of resistance, but now it's kind of gone. You know,

Speaker 1: it's just might just keep doing it. Just keep

Speaker 2: yeah and now you're you're Doing shit that's really being recognized like you want a fucking Emmy.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a Grammy I got A1A Grammy Grammy since I came back. Yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 2: that was amazing It's nice and I think you want a Grammy for the special this it was very funny But I think the next 1 was but I think sorry was even better. Thank you, man I

Speaker 1: really do sorry that got nominated for a Grammy, so we'll see what happens. What I hope it wins Yeah, we'll see

Speaker 2: I love it if you want 2 years in a row.

Speaker 1: I want to

Speaker 2: see people get crazy like you know

Speaker 0: Whatever

Speaker 2: whatever god damn it. I loved it. I got so angry when people were calling out your That leak set. Yeah, people are mad because to me

Speaker 0: it was like that's what he's always done This is great stuff.

Speaker 2: Like these are

Speaker 0: but not only that you hadn't didn't stand up in 10 months I'm like, this is the this is the seeds of a fantastic hour.

Speaker 2: And you're only seeing like literally the first couple

Speaker 0: of times he's even said these things aloud in public.

Speaker 1: I literally was having a Conversation with another comedian and came up with the bits and went on the stage and did them So it was the first time I'd done them and I I just got so excited to be back on stage Because I had taken a long time off and it was and there was resistance coming back but I was it was I was in a club with my crowd for the first time and so I was it was the only thing I regret is it was reckless because my life was very precarious things were tough and things were tough for my kids so that created a bigger huge stink bomb than anything else that even happened

Speaker 2: that did

Speaker 1: yeah the set was really really hard So I Given how things were I probably could have made jokes about a couple other things. I don't believe I did anything wrong

Speaker 0: You did what you always I

Speaker 1: do I've always done this the way it works is I say stuff that is the wrong thing to say I hear the resistance to it And then I and then I work with it and work with it and it takes a few shows For it to be a safe bit to do but there's a few audiences that that you know And that audience actually didn't didn't mind it, but it's not for regular consumption. It's like watching somebody practice piano and going like, he sucks. I think it's really bad That we don't have these barriers anymore where there's speech that's for these few people there's speech that we're gonna we're gonna have a Fun conversation where we're gonna get a little crazy. It's not for the whole world to see

Speaker 2: Well, what was infuriating to me was people that know that they know what you're saying Yeah, and they went after you I was like you motherfucker Yeah, there's people that I won't talk to you know this day because of that

Speaker 1: I was

Speaker 2: like I'm not talking to you like unless you want to make some like big public apology Or you want to apologize to me And tell me why you did it and what real feelings of insecurity and jealousy But nobody can

Speaker 1: do that

Speaker 2: Tim Dillon put a great post on his page about what's really going on Yeah, put a great post on his Instagram, and that's when I became friends with Tim

Speaker 1: Dillon, right?

Speaker 2: He wrote you're getting a bunch of people that are mediocre comedians

Speaker 1: Yeah

Speaker 2: and that are attacking him not really because of what he's saying, but because he's great and because they hate the fact that he was getting any attention at all and that it should be theirs, and now they find some chance to move up in the social structure. And that's what it felt like

Speaker 1: to me all of that is totally true And it's makes me understand it in other words. It makes me feel sympathy. It makes me go like All right, if that's what you need to do this which that's what you got to do. It's it's a I would prefer to hang out with somebody who doesn't need to do that But I get it.

Speaker 2: I can't be around them because no I understand you can do that again You could do that to her You know it's like having a snake in the room Are you gonna have a snake in the room as long as

Speaker 1: I mean? Aside from my shit the thing that was a drag to me about comedy in the last few years was people who, any comedian who's out in the world saying that comedians shouldn't be saying these things, that's a traitor to comedy.

Speaker 2: Well, they always

Speaker 1: suck. They're not a real comedian.

Speaker 2: And none of them are good.

Speaker 1: They've learned some tricks so they can run good and they might have a big audience But they're not they don't love this right and they are that's a fucked up thing to do

Speaker 2: It's a fucked up thing to do and it's always coming from a place of jealousy.

Speaker 1: Yes, and also it's never always happening to somebody who's already deeply besieged. Somebody who's already the whole world. When you see the whole world coming down on somebody for something they said, and then you go, man, I'm going to say the same thing. That's about you. That has nothing to do with how you really feel about what they said.

It has nothing to do. It's just that you want to be heard in your circle saying it also, because you see that you can get a little something from it.

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