Taken from JRE #1934 w/Lex Fridman:
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The Jorogun Experience It's interesting when you see narratives and that those narratives are not accurate and you see narratives that get pushed like 1 we were talking about earlier today was the Paul Pelosi video Do you see that video?

The cops, they released the cops' body camera footage.

And then they also released the security footage that shows the guy breaking into the house.

And then they released the 9-11 call so you can listen to Pelosi.

So there was some suspicion that he knew the guy.

But I think that's just because people are always suspicious of everything.

There's always like, what's really going on?

But you could really clearly hear from the 9-11 call that there's a crazy person in his house with a hammer And he's trying to keep the guy calm And he thought the guy was pretty calm up until the moment where the cops came and you see has his hand on the hammer I mean, it's really fucked up.

Listen to this because it's kind of crazy.

...Getting in trouble in the area but it's a clean area.

It's horrible because you hear him snore, like he's out cold.

A crazy person broke into his house and attacked him I mean that's this is CC the guy the guy is smashing his door with a hammer that was shows up

pulls up he's got a backpack And he pulls out a fucking hammer and just starts slamming at the door so he breaks into his house

He also just got out of jail So this guy is breaking his fucking door smashing the window look at this and he goes into this goes into his fucking house and hits him in the head with a hammer and so there was all this speculation that people knew him But that's what's fascinating right that these these narratives like instead of people going.

I don't know what the folks going on Everybody's like

He was doing this and he knew that guy maybe they were doing drugs together Maybe they were doing this

and it escalates like Yeah, I think it can start that's a fascinating thing to me is like a random anonymous person on the internet Can even just ask a question did they know each other?

Yeah And that somehow starts to build up that it doesn't matter the story starts to build up to where somebody swoops in and answers that question.

And then somehow they can escalate and become viral.

They're supposed to be scared of the people.

They're not supposed to be making the people scared.

The government's literally supposed to be people like you Working for you to make everything better for you.

It's not supposed to be like you buy a fucking house like Paul Pelosi worth You know millions of dollars and some crazy, but how does he not have security?

That's what they're worth hundreds of millions of dollars that they swindled the American public from how do they not have security?

I mean if you got that kind of cash and everybody knows you got a lot of it maybe from trading in a way that like you might have known some stuff before you made these trades I mean you might have had some inside information.

Yeah but there's probably much richer people to target.

Do you know that they are more successful at trading than Warren Buffett and George Soros?

Make sure I'm not spreading more misinformation.

I think it was in I Forget what website it was but They've made an absorb exorbitant amount of money a huge amount of money And meanwhile, he's just like hanging out in this house with no security And no gun and everybody knows where the house is It's like kind of crazy that this was the first time a really nutty person But that guy like apparently had just gotten out of jail He was gonna be sentenced and he was he was going away for something else.

that guy's eyes did not feel calm when the cops show the light on him He was making decisions.

He was making rash decisions very quickly What would

you have done with the hammer like what's

2 hands first of all do not 1 hand you don't hold on to your Fucking drink

You got to grab the fucking hammer and control it Control it If he's doing this yeah, that means he's pulling if he's pulling you go behind him

just put a leg behind him, and he's on the ground.

Yeah, I mean this is like real obvious Like you don't get the hammer back by going forward you go this way so if he's pulling backwards He's just moving just go into him

him I let go of the fucking hammer you hold a hammer with 1 hand you

a hammer can kill you easily yeah, and he's holding a drink throw the drink at the guy's face grab the fucking hammer

Yeah, where did he get hit cuz he did fucking head man the head in the head in the head

Yeah, that's what you you hear him in the video We cut it off before you could hear cuz It's disturbing you hear him snore like people do when they get knocked out,

but no the like skull cracker No, do you know

Yeah, you hear it you hear it his head Yeah, it's bad man.

I mean I Don't know the extent of his injuries obviously, but he's 100% knocked unconscious there You could see him out you hear it hit him you see him go down I mean unless the whole thing's a sigh up and that's why you don't see the hammer You don't see the hammer hit him.

Yeah, you know it's like maybe it's to make us feel sympathetic for them.

You know look at them They're getting broke so they stole a little money.

thank God It wasn't Nancy imagine that guy did it to Nancy Cuz he would have If that guy had gotten into that house And she was there instead of him and the cops came when she was there.

He would have killed her with that fucking hammer, man And maybe she would have reacted in a different way than her husband her husband was trying to calm the guy down It seemed like if you listen to the 9-11 call then the 9-1-1 call he's he's having this conversation With the lady on the phone trying to be calm about getting cops to his house when the lady is like saying I guess you're Okay, then he's like no no no.

I'm not okay, okay Like there's like a an exchange Where she's not sure what he's because he's not like outright saying I'm in danger send police a guy's gonna kill me He's not he's trying to keep the the guy calm.

You got a crazy guy with a hammer in your fucking house That's what happened, but San Francisco is fucking overrun with crazy people man that the streets are filled with fentanyl addicts You got people that are dying on the streets of overdoses every day.

Well, I'm just in some sense glad that there's video of this to where we know it's a crazy person versus like that kind of suffocates some of the conspiracy theories.

Some of which like Elon started, he apologized for it after.

About that this was a gay lover or something like that.

No that guy was a crazy person I mean, I don't know whether or not he knew him beforehand or had any interactions with him beforehand But the look in his eyes when the cop says You want to put down the hammer?

When he says nope like that, like he had, there was a fucking, there's a wire loose in that guy's head.

He just cracks him in the head with a fucking hammer.

I'm gonna have to get a John Donaher breakdown of how to defend against hammers.

That was not in my suite of things to consider when


Speaker 0: The Jorogun Experience It's interesting when you see narratives and that those narratives are not accurate and you see narratives that get pushed like 1 we were talking about earlier today was the Paul Pelosi video Do you see that video? Do You see the Paul Pelosi?

Speaker 1: The story, yes.

Speaker 0: The guy with the hammer. Wait, there's a video

Speaker 1: of it?

Speaker 0: Yeah, there's a video of it. The cops, they released the cops' body camera footage. And then they also released the security footage that shows the guy breaking into the house. And then they released the 9-11 call so you can listen to Pelosi. So there was some suspicion that he knew the guy.

But I think that's just because people are always suspicious of everything. There's always like, what's really going on? People always do that. But you could really clearly hear from the 9-11 call that there's a crazy person in his house with a hammer And he's trying to keep the guy calm And he thought the guy was pretty calm up until the moment where the cops came and you see has his hand on the hammer I mean, it's really fucked up. Listen to this because it's kind of crazy.

Let's do it from the beginning. Oh, wow. But listen. Watch this. So he goes in his house.

So here's the guy. He's got his hand on the hammer. Everything's good. All right. Drop the hammer.

Speaker 1: Nope. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 0: What is going on right now?

Speaker 1: I'm not getting any

Speaker 0: answer I'm probably... Whoa, whoa, whoa. ...Getting in trouble in the area but it's a clean area. It's horrible because you hear him snore, like he's out cold. It's really bad.

A crazy person broke into his house and attacked him I mean that's this is CC the guy the guy is smashing his door with a hammer that was shows up

Speaker 1: For some reason he

Speaker 0: pulls up he's got a backpack And he pulls out a fucking hammer and just starts slamming at the door so he breaks into his house

Speaker 1: He seemed so cool

Speaker 0: get him. Oh, he's crazy. He also just got out of jail So this guy is breaking his fucking door smashing the window look at this and he goes into this goes into his fucking house and hits him in the head with a hammer and so there was all this speculation that people knew him But that's what's fascinating right that these these narratives like instead of people going. I don't know what the folks going on Everybody's like

Speaker 1: I know what's going on.

Speaker 0: He was doing this and he knew that guy maybe they were doing drugs together Maybe they were doing this

Speaker 1: and it escalates like Yeah, I think it can start that's a fascinating thing to me is like a random anonymous person on the internet Can even just ask a question did they know each other? Yeah And that somehow starts to build up that it doesn't matter the story starts to build up to where somebody swoops in and answers that question. It's all like anonymous people. And then somehow they can escalate and become viral.

Speaker 0: They're supposed to be scared of the people. They're not supposed to be making the people scared. The government's literally supposed to be people like you Working for you to make everything better for you. It's not supposed to be like you buy a fucking house like Paul Pelosi worth You know millions of dollars and some crazy, but how does he not have security? That's what they're worth hundreds of millions of dollars that they swindled the American public from how do they not have security?

I mean if you got that kind of cash and everybody knows you got a lot of it maybe from trading in a way that like you might have known some stuff before you made these trades I mean you might have had some inside information.

Speaker 1: Yeah but there's probably much richer people to target.

Speaker 0: Do you know that they are more successful at trading than Warren Buffett and George Soros?

Speaker 1: Are they?

Speaker 0: Yes. Google that. Make sure I'm not spreading more misinformation. But I read it. I read it.

I think it was in I Forget what website it was but They've made an absorb exorbitant amount of money a huge amount of money And meanwhile, he's just like hanging out in this house with no security And no gun and everybody knows where the house is It's like kind of crazy that this was the first time a really nutty person But that guy like apparently had just gotten out of jail He was gonna be sentenced and he was he was going away for something else.

Speaker 1: That's a terrifying video by the way

Speaker 0: terrifying

Speaker 1: Everything felt calm the look in

Speaker 0: that guy's eyes did not feel calm when the cops show the light on him He was making decisions. You could see it in his eyes. He was making rash decisions very quickly What would

Speaker 1: you have done with the hammer like what's

Speaker 0: 2 hands first of all do not 1 hand you don't hold on to your Fucking drink

Speaker 1: more aggressive. Yes hammer away.

Speaker 0: You got to grab the fucking hammer and control it Control it If he's doing this yeah, that means he's pulling if he's pulling you go behind him

Speaker 1: Yeah, you

Speaker 0: just put a leg behind him, and he's on the ground.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 0: He's a He's a crazy homeless guy. He's not a grappler.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 0: Yeah, I mean this is like real obvious Like you don't get the hammer back by going forward you go this way so if he's pulling backwards He's just moving just go into him

Speaker 1: But you never let go of

Speaker 0: him I let go of the fucking hammer you hold a hammer with 1 hand you

Speaker 1: could do a lot of Damage

Speaker 0: a hammer can kill you easily yeah, and he's holding a drink throw the drink at the guy's face grab the fucking hammer

Speaker 1: Yeah, where did he get hit cuz he did fucking head man the head in the head in the head

Speaker 0: Yeah, that's what you you hear him in the video We cut it off before you could hear cuz It's disturbing you hear him snore like people do when they get knocked out,

Speaker 1: but no the like skull cracker No, do you know

Speaker 0: oh you hear it? Yeah, you hear it you hear it his head Yeah, it's bad man. It's bad.

Speaker 1: Yeah,

Speaker 0: I mean I Don't know the extent of his injuries obviously, but he's 100% knocked unconscious there You could see him out you hear it hit him you see him go down I mean unless the whole thing's a sigh up and that's why you don't see the hammer You don't see the hammer hit him. Yeah, you know it's like maybe it's to make us feel sympathetic for them. You know look at them They're getting broke so they stole a little money. They don't deserve a hammer to the head.

Speaker 1: Yeah,

Speaker 0: thank God It wasn't Nancy imagine that guy did it to Nancy Cuz he would have If that guy had gotten into that house And she was there instead of him and the cops came when she was there. He would have killed her with that fucking hammer, man And maybe she would have reacted in a different way than her husband her husband was trying to calm the guy down It seemed like if you listen to the 9-11 call then the 9-1-1 call he's he's having this conversation With the lady on the phone trying to be calm about getting cops to his house when the lady is like saying I guess you're Okay, then he's like no no no. I'm not okay, okay Like there's like a an exchange Where she's not sure what he's because he's not like outright saying I'm in danger send police a guy's gonna kill me He's not he's trying to keep the the guy calm. You got a crazy guy with a hammer in your fucking house That's what happened, but San Francisco is fucking overrun with crazy people man that the streets are filled with fentanyl addicts You got people that are dying on the streets of overdoses every day.

It's a fucking Disaster there.

Speaker 1: Well, I'm just in some sense glad that there's video of this to where we know it's a crazy person versus like that kind of suffocates some of the conspiracy theories. Some of which like Elon started, he apologized for it after.

Speaker 0: Yeah, he retweeted something, right?

Speaker 1: About that this was a gay lover or something like that.

Speaker 0: Yeah. No that guy was a crazy person I mean, I don't know whether or not he knew him beforehand or had any interactions with him beforehand But the look in his eyes when the cop says You want to put down the hammer? He's like, nope.

Speaker 1: It's terrifying.

Speaker 0: When he says nope like that, like he had, there was a fucking, there's a wire loose in that guy's head. 100%. He just cracks him in the head with a fucking hammer.

Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get a John Donaher breakdown of how to defend against hammers. That was not in my suite of things to consider when

Speaker 0: I was being a tech. Control of the hammer is very important.

Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a leverage arm.

Speaker 0: You want to control the hammer.

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