Taken from JRE MMA Show #135 w/Paul Felder:
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The Jorogun experience John Jones and amazing fight and and Ghana was another 1 now where we're all like

that might still happen could happen still happen

When they're When we all want it to happen, you know, I mean if it happens in 4 years from now

But it doesn't have to happen in 4 years.

This is, I mean, just for legacy and just for also money.

I think the big money is if he has an account, What if he knocks out Dillian white right?

and got you got to remember and Ghanu is 265 ripped Yeah, cut

and wait to probably be a 200 and see with canned

hams for fists Yeah, just giant just he's a fucking specimen and the power is extraordinary And if he's just punching and not worrying about takedowns If 1 of those fuck look at look at Wilder Wilder who's the greatest knockout artist ever crazy greatest he's 1 punch knockout artist I would say I mean there's you have your George Foreman's and Mike Tyson are the most beautiful Combinations we've ever seen the heavyweight division, but Wilder just power.

He is this guy stiff He has prep up that 1 Ortiz when he hit Ortiz in the forehead pull that up pull up Wilder knocks out Ortiz because he hit him and Ortiz is a durable guy a tough guy and he had Wilder in some trouble in that fight, and Wilder just blap, hit him, blap, right in the forehead.

back and Ortiz's eyes are all back, he's like, what the fuck just hit me?

Those are the things you can't train that is God's gift to

It's that long frame like you're looking another lean Oh my goodness look at this watch this Here it goes again BAM I Mean look at it.

He's just like trying to put his mouthpiece back in.

You don't even know his mouthpiece is in he's still trying to find it.

His legs aren't moving He's like what the fuck?

He's confused wilder Preposterous power, but it just goes to show you like there's levels look at the chin of Tyson Fury Tyson Fury the 12th round that first Fight drops in right hand left hook And even does this like it's over like I got him.

No rises from rises I Remember watching that 1 live and I couldn't believe it.

He's done in my bedroom screaming Alone in my bedroom screaming.

in the other room like the fuck are you yelling?

I'm like he's winning the fucking 12th round.

Plan B option if Usyk fight fails to happen is in Ghanu.

It's the most important fight in boxing I think that fight is gigantic because you got oozik who's you know beats Joshua twice and the best Movement and boxing and skillful.

He's a heavyweight Loma chanko Yeah, and it was the cruiserweight champion is an undersized heavyweight And you got Tyson who's as big a heavyweight as you're ever gonna say 6 9 Long as fuck crazy agile With back fat like

I couldn't tell that picture pants were falling down or

go back to that picture Jamie The picture just showed the oosik the backup fight that he's a backup fighter The 1 that you just had up if you look the rolls of fat off his back

I love him I love that guy war Tyson Fury vs.

Al's and it was sick headed to Wembley in April huge boost to British boxing fans what a fucking fight that's gonna be my guy that's gonna be amazing I just don't know if Usyk has the size to deal with that guy it's gonna be interesting to see he what strategy he employs whether or not he can avoid the big bombs and the reach and

Not the long lean type that we're talking

I mean, he doesn't give a fuck what his body looks like.

He's always, well he's, that's what I mean.

That's why I'm asking I know he goes back and forth on you know He's he's right in the head, and then he's not and then you'll see him in a clip, and he's had you know

Well you know he's an inspirational story, I mean it really is I mean the guy was like he beats Vladimir Klitschko He becomes a heavyweight champion and then loses his fucking mind.

Yeah, he's drinking constantly almost committed suicide was driving his Ferrari thinking about just fucking driving off a cliff And then gets it together and becomes a heavyweight champion again.

And then wasn't fully all the way back when he fought Wilder.

And then fights Wilder in the rematch and then now he's fucking tuned up and ready.

And then the third fight Wilder catches him with a bomb!

That bomb that he caught him where you see the fat ripple all the way down to his body Any other human any other human?

up any other human nobody punches like Wilder nobody

Because you like like we talked about it's just it's in him It's not he's not doing something in the gym with a trainer to get that kind of power.

It's also being a gypsy and being around that fucking rough tumble brawling World his whole life his dad's a fighter his brothers a fight.

Everyone's a fighter around them just fucking Savages just in the bones in the bones you see people man when whenever he talks about retiring I'm like not yet.

I think that if he does beat Usyk, it's still possible, because they're gonna fight in April, right?

Unless Ngannou decides to take a big money boxing fight before that, which I don't blame him for doing.

But God damn it, if he beats Usyk, that's really the only compelling interesting thing for him in that division I mean what else would be compelling the Joshua fight?

Not really not after the Usyk fights Mm-hmm.

I mean unless Joshua comes Back because they're talking about Joshua fighting Wilder right isn't that the talk no they're talking about Ortiz fighting Wilder right no Ruiz Andy Ruiz right that's what they're talking about so Andy Ruiz are talking about him fighting Wilder if That's look Wilder versus and Ghana would be crazy How about that fight

I just think as long as he gets something.

If you're gonna leave that contract on the table, I hope you get some big fights, man, because that was a big payday to leave behind.

More money than any heavyweight before, but I think the sticking point, now I'm talking out of school here because I don't know just what I've read The sticking point I think was that he wanted to be able to go off and do boxing.

Yeah, it's his credit He's like a Conor McGregor did it.

I Get it, but if I'm getting yeah Hundreds of million dollars a fight right on the table.

a hundred million dollars in the floor made with a fight.

Yeah, and that's the generational wealth Yeah, how do you but

he locked out where the UFC wanted to partner with that and make that happen, right?

That's where that whole situation and that's what and Gano I guess wanted to and it's just like man They probably did that 1 time and we're like all right.

What's also if the boxer beats up the UFC fighter?

Yeah, how many times you want to sign up for that

Yeah, The thing is, no 1 wants to do that.


Speaker 0: The Jorogun experience John Jones and amazing fight and and Ghana was another 1 now where we're all like

Speaker 1: that might still happen could happen still happen

Speaker 0: But will it happen? When they're When we all want it to happen, you know, I mean if it happens in 4 years from now

Speaker 1: But it doesn't have to happen in 4 years. Here's my thing. Again, Mr. Ingano, please hear me out. This is, I mean, just for legacy and just for also money.

I think the big money is if he has an account, What if he knocks out Dillian white right? What if they set him up with some boxer? Who's an elite boxer not Tyson Fury and

Speaker 0: he goes and wins a big fight

Speaker 1: and got you got to remember and Ghanu is 265 ripped Yeah, cut

Speaker 0: and wait to probably be a 200 and see with canned

Speaker 1: hams for fists Yeah, just giant just he's a fucking specimen and the power is extraordinary And if he's just punching and not worrying about takedowns If 1 of those fuck look at look at Wilder Wilder who's the greatest knockout artist ever crazy greatest he's 1 punch knockout artist I would say I mean there's you have your George Foreman's and Mike Tyson are the most beautiful Combinations we've ever seen the heavyweight division, but Wilder just power. Do you see his last fight?

Speaker 0: It wasn't even moving away

Speaker 1: moving away. He is this guy stiff He has prep up that 1 Ortiz when he hit Ortiz in the forehead pull that up pull up Wilder knocks out Ortiz because he hit him and Ortiz is a durable guy a tough guy and he had Wilder in some trouble in that fight, and Wilder just blap, hit him, blap, right in the forehead.

Speaker 0: Yeah, you can tell, man. Head snaps

Speaker 1: back and Ortiz's eyes are all back, he's like, what the fuck just hit me?

Speaker 0: Those are the things you can't train that is God's gift to

Speaker 1: you and again. It's that long frame like you're looking another lean Oh my goodness look at this watch this Here it goes again BAM I Mean look at it. He's like what? He's just like trying to put his mouthpiece back in.

Speaker 0: You don't even know his mouthpiece is in he's still trying to find it.

Speaker 1: His legs aren't moving He's like what the fuck?

Speaker 0: He's like upset about

Speaker 1: it. He's confused wilder Preposterous power, but it just goes to show you like there's levels look at the chin of Tyson Fury Tyson Fury the 12th round that first Fight drops in right hand left hook And even does this like it's over like I got him.

Speaker 0: Yeah, I

Speaker 1: got him.

Speaker 0: No rises from rises I Remember watching that 1 live and I couldn't believe it. I was like oh, that's it.

Speaker 1: He's done in my bedroom screaming Alone in my bedroom screaming. Oh my god. He's winning the 12th round

Speaker 0: I was my wife was

Speaker 1: in the other room like the fuck are you yelling? I'm like he's winning the fucking 12th round. This is insane. He almost gets killed. He gets back up and he wins.

Plan B option if Usyk fight fails to happen is in Ghanu. Oh wow. Wow. Well, the Usyk fight's gonna happen. It's the most important fight in boxing I think that fight is gigantic because you got oozik who's you know beats Joshua twice and the best Movement and boxing and skillful.

He's a heavyweight Loma chanko Yeah, and it was the cruiserweight champion is an undersized heavyweight And you got Tyson who's as big a heavyweight as you're ever gonna say 6 9 Long as fuck crazy agile With back fat like

Speaker 0: that picture right there. I couldn't tell that picture pants were falling down or

Speaker 1: go back to that picture Jamie The picture just showed the oosik the backup fight that he's a backup fighter The 1 that you just had up if you look the rolls of fat off his back

Speaker 0: Yeah, look at there

Speaker 1: that back fat is insane

Speaker 0: peak peak male performance

Speaker 1: So you beat the bodybuilder? You haven't fought the gypsy king.

Speaker 0: You're crazy. Dude.

Speaker 1: He's the fucking bad

Speaker 0: dad's out of his mind.

Speaker 1: I love him I love that guy war Tyson Fury vs. Al's and it was sick headed to Wembley in April huge boost to British boxing fans what a fucking fight that's gonna be my guy that's gonna be amazing I just don't know if Usyk has the size to deal with that guy it's gonna be interesting to see he what strategy he employs whether or not he can avoid the big bombs and the reach and

Speaker 0: the length. So long. But. Not the long lean type that we're talking

Speaker 1: about. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Little different.

Speaker 0: Little different.

Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't give a fuck what his body looks like. He's just a fighter.

Speaker 0: Is he still, is he sober? No! Is he not sober? He's back on the sauce now?

Speaker 1: He just doesn't drink in camp.

Speaker 0: Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1: I mean I don't know if he's sober. I don't think he's sober.

Speaker 0: He's always, well he's, that's what I mean. That's why I'm asking I know he goes back and forth on you know He's he's right in the head, and then he's not and then you'll see him in a clip, and he's had you know

Speaker 1: Well you know he's an inspirational story, I mean it really is I mean the guy was like he beats Vladimir Klitschko He becomes a heavyweight champion and then loses his fucking mind. Yeah, he's drinking constantly almost committed suicide was driving his Ferrari thinking about just fucking driving off a cliff And then gets it together and becomes a heavyweight champion again. And then wasn't fully all the way back when he fought Wilder. And then fights Wilder in the rematch and then now he's fucking tuned up and ready. Beats the brakes off of Wilder.

And then the third fight Wilder catches him with a bomb! That bomb that he caught him where you see the fat ripple all the way down to his body Any other human any other human?

Speaker 0: Not getting back

Speaker 1: up any other human nobody punches like Wilder nobody

Speaker 0: Because you like like we talked about it's just it's in him It's not he's not doing something in the gym with a trainer to get that kind of power. That's You were born with that gift

Speaker 1: It's also being a gypsy and being around that fucking rough tumble brawling World his whole life his dad's a fighter his brothers a fight. Everyone's a fighter around them just fucking Savages just in the bones in the bones you see people man when whenever he talks about retiring I'm like not yet. Yeah, Don't do it. I think that if he does beat Usyk, it's still possible, because they're gonna fight in April, right? Unless Ngannou decides to take a big money boxing fight before that, which I don't blame him for doing.

But God damn it, if he beats Usyk, that's really the only compelling interesting thing for him in that division I mean what else would be compelling the Joshua fight? Not really not after the Usyk fights Mm-hmm. I mean unless Joshua comes Back because they're talking about Joshua fighting Wilder right isn't that the talk no they're talking about Ortiz fighting Wilder right no Ruiz Andy Ruiz right that's what they're talking about so Andy Ruiz are talking about him fighting Wilder if That's look Wilder versus and Ghana would be crazy How about that fight

Speaker 0: I just think as long as he gets something.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanted to get that payday.

Speaker 0: If you're gonna leave that contract on the table, I hope you get some big fights, man, because that was a big payday to leave behind.

Speaker 1: More money than any heavyweight before, but I think the sticking point, now I'm talking out of school here because I don't know just what I've read The sticking point I think was that he wanted to be able to go off and do boxing. Yeah, it's his credit He's like a Conor McGregor did it. Why can't I do it? Yeah, and I get it

Speaker 0: Yeah, I get it. I Get it, but if I'm getting yeah Hundreds of million dollars a fight right on the table. It's hard to

Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars in the floor made with a fight. Yeah, and that's the generational wealth Yeah, how do you but

Speaker 0: he locked out where the UFC wanted to partner with that and make that happen, right? That's where that whole situation and that's what and Gano I guess wanted to and it's just like man They probably did that 1 time and we're like all right. You know what yeah, that was a whole

Speaker 1: What's also if the boxer beats up the UFC fighter?

Speaker 0: Yeah, how many times you want to sign up for that

Speaker 1: you can't get the boxer to fight UFC? Yeah, The thing is, no 1 wants to do that.

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