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The Jorogun Experience What is that lawsuit that I see that's going on right now the criminal trial with a dude from the Fugees?

Yeah, but I think he's a double agent or what cuz apparently Tupac said back in the day No, he's an FBI or something

he listened to Tupac Tupac's mother was a Black Panther.

Fuji rapper Pross testifies he met and shared information with the FBI voluntarily Oh who So Jeff Sessions testimony was not exciting the defense basically said had him described an official legal process for considering extraditing Guao at China's request the apparent idea was to suggest There was nothing so bad in Pross and company trying to have Guo sent back to China.

Pross is testifying in his own defense, told the judge, after consulting with my attorneys and the universe, I decided that I will testify.

He's facing 10 charges including conspiracy, witness tampering, and failing to register as an agent of China.

That guy was a billionaire he was talking about.

Well, on the stand, Pross addressed his alleged efforts to get the US to extradite Chinese billionaire Gua Wenjie Wangui in addition he denied acting as an agent for China I Took it upon myself to report because I thought the FBI should know," he testified.

Before his trial started, the 50-year-old artist told Rolling Stone, "'What benefit would I get trying to break laws?

I've got friends who won't talk to me because they think there's a satellite in orbit listening to them.'" To be clear, Prost never testified in the stand that he was an FBI informant.

His approach to the FBI to discuss Gua Wenhui and 3 Americans held in China was completely voluntary.

If convicted, Pross serves 22 years in prison.

Okay, it says, they allege the veteran Reimer was the middleman for alleged crimes, including a secret lobbying campaign to help Malaysian billionaire Joe Lao put pressure on American justice officials while White House officials and White House officials when his fraud scheme unraveled and to help the Chinese government Secure the return of a dissident who's living inside the u.s.

not exactly sure what he did Still don't know what he did.

But it seems like Then he didn't he wasn't even informed like he went to the FBI because he felt like they should know that Which is like?

Shit that goes on and see why my my business see what I say if it's aliens out there Hey, if they out there all I say when you come to our country pay your taxes Well, I mean I don't want to pay shit if I country pay your taxes shit well I mean I

don't know if I looked at if what I think about aliens I think they're monitoring us because we're highly sophisticated society that might blow itself up I don't think that's why they're here

Okay, bring in the Tupac I just brought up

Tupac lyrics fueling a conspiracy theory after Fuji's member Pras admits.

He was an FBI informant The hip-hop world was shocked when Pras how do you say his last name?

1 of the founding members of the legendary group the Fugees admitted he was an FBI informant during his federal conspiracy trial in Washington, D.C.

Praz is accused of conspiring to make illegal campaign contributions using foreign funds from a Malaysian fugitive chowlo Who's wanted also wanted for his role in a massive corruption scandal involving billions of dollars So he got tied up with the wrong people

Somewhere on here like a cryptic line from a song in 96 is something about the Fugees were trying to do to him Speculating that

to Baca was aware of process involvement with the FBI And that he was expecting him as exposing him as a snitch Yeah, so that's like open to interpretation

Not a bad side gear if you come with health care

Yeah, those FBI informants, it seems like a lot of those guys wind up going to jail anyway.

That or, what is it, when they protect you for the rest of your

You get to live in the middle of nowhere with a fake name, just stay at home, wait

Currently facing up to 22 years in prison for conspiracy witness tampering and the failing to register as an agent of China.

Michelle was first accused, I hope I'm not saying his name wrong, was first accused of federal crimes December of 2018.

Although he would eventually plead not guilty in May of 2019, Michelle was allegedly involved in helping Malaysian business mogul, that's what we already know, embezzle over $4.5 billion from the Malaysian government and use it to fund Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign.

So he stole money and then when he gave money, like he was a big dog to Obama campaign?

Well, you know, they do shit like that just to protect themselves from future prosecution.

That's what like FTX did, that cryptocurrency exchange that went under.

They were the number 2 donor to the Democratic Party.

They were just donating money like crazy.

We're gonna give you some money Like they're making billions of dollars of these nonsense.

Very little I have some Bitcoin Along with Trump asking Trump to dismiss Lowe's previous crime Michelle also reportedly worked on behalf of the Chinese government to try to return a Chinese dissident back from the U.S.

By establishing a relationship with Steve Bannon and Trump.

did Leonardo DiCaprio got to do with anything?

I said, decided to testify on April 18th.

Iconic actor Leonardo DiCaprio was called to stand on April 3rd.

Considering he had a previous relationship with both Lowe and Michele, DiCaprio testified that Lowe revealed to him His plans to make donations to the Democratic Party in 2012 that that whole donating to political party shit is so Slippery that shit is so slippery.

There's like what kind of weird deals you guys making like why don't

Small people like me donate I don't get shit, but a sticker That's all I ever got when I donated to the Democratic Party.

the 1 article, the first 1 we said, said he didn't say he was an informant, but this, everything else has said the opposite.

Well, informant means he had a conversation with them and he gave them information.

You could technically say he's an FBI informant if you went to them with information.

Admitting that he was an informant for the FBI, Michel elaborated that he gave up information about U.S.

Hostages in China, while at the same time being a liaison for China, who was working to get a Chinese criminal billionaire extradited back from the U.S.

If this sounds like a big, ugly mess, it's because it is.

It seems like he just got caught up in some shit where he's probably trying to make some money and they thought it would be clean and they're going to donate money to the Democratic Party and oh, it's great, working with all these people.

And that's 1 of the ways they get people involved in these, like, very shady deals, as they do it with other famous people.

Next thing you know, you're involved in some weird thing that's got you, you know, testifying in front of Congress.

1 thing you can guarantee, Joe Rogan, I'm never coming to an alien party with you.

I love you, but you can have that shit on your own.

If the aliens come, you're the first person I'm coming to.

If they grab me, and I'm like we're real who we gonna tell I'm like Oh found guilty on all 10 counts

France Convicted guilty on 10 counts related to what prosecutors called a clandestine foreign intelligence campaign scheme funded by a wealthy Malaysian Financier to peddle influence in the United States see that's what I'm talking about They're peddling influence the week-long trial saw witnesses like Leonardo DiCaprio former Attorney General Jeff Sessions take the stand and testify under oath.

He was charged as a co-defendant in Michele's case and played a major role in witness testimony and evidence presented to the jury according to the Justice Department.

Lao, I don't know how you say it, lower Lao, allegedly misappropriated over 500 million from the sovereign wealth fund, Malaysian, 1 Malaysian development, Burhad, With wire transfers to shell companies he and others used or owned Okay, so he's fucked man if they if they made him he's going to jail 22 years what is he 50 fuck?

He might not make it off that type of food.

I think how many of those are going on where people aren't getting arrested though?

Like how much of that influence peddling shit is just...

I'm still confused as to how he's in trouble.

He connected people that were trying to get a billionaire released, he became friends with Trump To try to get a guy released

He was no he was just giving the money to Obama

He's they he tried to establish a relationship with Steve Bannon and Trump

He paid $20 million to get a picture with Obama.

Lau paid Michelle $20 million in 2012 in order to get a picture of himself with Obama, and prosecutors allege that Michelle funneled over $800,000 of that money to Obama's campaign through a number of straw donors.

So he made a deal where this guy gave him $20 million.

He said, I'll give you a picture with Obama, you gotta give me $20 million.

And he said to Obama, listen, I'll give you 800,000.

He just said that he just started, he just made up all these accounts and then money.

Yeah, but I mean, they must have had some.

He funneled that money through a number of straw donors.

That seems to me like that's how they would do it.

Well somebody donate that type of money you want to know who it is.

It's not like me who give you $20 and say no to the next $20.

But they did it through these like hidden things.

Yeah, it gets over a hundred million it says.

According to prosecutors, Lowe directed over $100 million to Michelle to help push the government, including Trump, to drop its investigation into Lowe.

Prosecutors also say that Michelle advocated for the extradition of Chinese dissident, Gua Wen-Dui, on behalf of the Chinese government.

him 100 million for a media business he was starting.

Can you imagine the Fuji, They ain't had a song in years, but they looking at him like, how is he living like that?

rest of the group, like, what the fuck is he over there doing?

All this time, he got a friend named Lo who's sending him millions through wire.

He pulling in up in new cars and you like, I know everybody else in the group like, nigga what you

The fact that they, like no one's mad at Obama for that No one's no one's mad at me getting the Democratic Party getting all that money.

All the money that got funneled from them, imagine if that got funneled to another person.

But you get funneled to the Democratic Party like, hey, we're helping the good guys.


Speaker 0: The Jorogun Experience What is that lawsuit that I see that's going on right now the criminal trial with a dude from the Fugees? What is that? Do you know that story?

Speaker 1: He was an FBI a snitch.

Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think he's a double agent or what cuz apparently Tupac said back in the day No, he's an FBI or something

Speaker 0: Tupac said he was FBI back in the day

Speaker 1: So what

Speaker 0: he listened to Tupac Tupac's mother was a Black Panther. Maybe they should have listened

Speaker 1: They should so he came out. He was really an FBI agent, right?

Speaker 0: That's crazy

Speaker 1: Was he really an FBI Who's your rapper

Speaker 0: Fuji rapper Pross testifies he met and shared information with the FBI voluntarily Oh who So Jeff Sessions testimony was not exciting the defense basically said had him described an official legal process for considering extraditing Guao at China's request the apparent idea was to suggest There was nothing so bad in Pross and company trying to have Guo sent back to China. Pross is testifying in his own defense, told the judge, after consulting with my attorneys and the universe, I decided that I will testify. Oh, he consulted with the universe. I like how people talk like that. He's facing 10 charges including conspiracy, witness tampering, and failing to register as an agent of China.

What?

Speaker 1: Who the fuck is Cha? I mean, Gua.

Speaker 0: He's an agent of China. The black dude?

Speaker 2: Yes. That guy was a billionaire he was talking about.

Speaker 0: Oh, okay. Well, on the stand, Pross addressed his alleged efforts to get the US to extradite Chinese billionaire Gua Wenjie Wangui in addition he denied acting as an agent for China I Took it upon myself to report because I thought the FBI should know," he testified. Before his trial started, the 50-year-old artist told Rolling Stone, "'What benefit would I get trying to break laws? It's not worth it to me. I'm like a pariah now.

I've got friends who won't talk to me because they think there's a satellite in orbit listening to them.'" To be clear, Prost never testified in the stand that he was an FBI informant. His approach to the FBI to discuss Gua Wenhui and 3 Americans held in China was completely voluntary. If convicted, Pross serves 22 years in prison. What do they think he did? That's what I don't understand.

What are they accusing him of? Okay, it says, they allege the veteran Reimer was the middleman for alleged crimes, including a secret lobbying campaign to help Malaysian billionaire Joe Lao put pressure on American justice officials while White House officials and White House officials when his fraud scheme unraveled and to help the Chinese government Secure the return of a dissident who's living inside the u.s.

Speaker 1: I Don't know nothing that shit. I'm

Speaker 0: not exactly sure what he did Still don't know what he did.

Speaker 1: I know everybody's like he's FBI. That's what everybody got a side job

Speaker 0: But it seems like Then he didn't he wasn't even informed like he went to the FBI because he felt like they should know that Which is like?

Speaker 1: Shit that goes on and see why my my business see what I say if it's aliens out there Hey, if they out there all I say when you come to our country pay your taxes Well, I mean I don't want to pay shit if I country pay your taxes shit well I mean I

Speaker 0: don't know if I looked at if what I think about aliens I think they're monitoring us because we're highly sophisticated society that might blow itself up I don't think that's why they're here

Speaker 1: Joe Ain't no fucking negative. You

Speaker 0: don't think so.

Speaker 2: There's a different explanation. Okay, bring in the Tupac I just brought up

Speaker 0: Tupac lyrics fueling a conspiracy theory after Fuji's member Pras admits. He was an FBI informant The hip-hop world was shocked when Pras how do you say his last name? Mikel or Michael. Michele. Michele.

1 of the founding members of the legendary group the Fugees admitted he was an FBI informant during his federal conspiracy trial in Washington, D.C. Praz is accused of conspiring to make illegal campaign contributions using foreign funds from a Malaysian fugitive chowlo Who's wanted also wanted for his role in a massive corruption scandal involving billions of dollars So he got tied up with the wrong people

Speaker 2: Somewhere on here like a cryptic line from a song in 96 is something about the Fugees were trying to do to him Speculating that

Speaker 0: to Baca was aware of process involvement with the FBI And that he was expecting him as exposing him as a snitch Yeah, so that's like open to interpretation

Speaker 1: Not a bad side gear if you come with health care

Speaker 0: Sidekick working for the FBI

Speaker 1: those health care.

Speaker 0: They seem to all go to jail anyway.

Speaker 1: Pretty much.

Speaker 0: Yeah, those FBI informants, it seems like a lot of those guys wind up going to jail anyway.

Speaker 1: That or, what is it, when they protect you for the rest of your

Speaker 0: life? Witness protection? Yeah. That's real fun. You get to live in the middle of nowhere with a fake name, just stay at home, wait

Speaker 1: to die. Let me get killed. I just gotta go to 1 more club.

Speaker 0: There's a

Speaker 2: little better explanation maybe.

Speaker 0: Currently facing up to 22 years in prison for conspiracy witness tampering and the failing to register as an agent of China. Michelle was first accused, I hope I'm not saying his name wrong, was first accused of federal crimes December of 2018. Although he would eventually plead not guilty in May of 2019, Michelle was allegedly involved in helping Malaysian business mogul, that's what we already know, embezzle over $4.5 billion from the Malaysian government and use it to fund Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign. What?

Speaker 1: So he stole money and then when he gave money, like he was a big dog to Obama campaign? Yes.

Speaker 0: Well, you know, they do shit like that just to protect themselves from future prosecution. That's what like FTX did, that cryptocurrency exchange that went under. They were the number 2 donor to the Democratic Party. They were just donating money like crazy. He's like leave us alone.

Where you're from. We're gonna give you some money Like they're making billions of dollars of these nonsense. Did

Speaker 1: you invest in that shit?

Speaker 0: Very little I have some Bitcoin Along with Trump asking Trump to dismiss Lowe's previous crime Michelle also reportedly worked on behalf of the Chinese government to try to return a Chinese dissident back from the U.S. By establishing a relationship with Steve Bannon and Trump. Wow. Okay, before Michel- What

Speaker 1: did Leonardo DiCaprio got to do with anything?

Speaker 0: I said, decided to testify on April 18th. Iconic actor Leonardo DiCaprio was called to stand on April 3rd. Considering he had a previous relationship with both Lowe and Michele, DiCaprio testified that Lowe revealed to him His plans to make donations to the Democratic Party in 2012 that that whole donating to political party shit is so Slippery that shit is so slippery. There's like what kind of weird deals you guys making like why don't

Speaker 1: I make you weird dear? Small people like me donate I don't get shit, but a sticker That's all I ever got when I donated to the Democratic Party.

Speaker 0: Their peddling influence. See,

Speaker 2: the 1 article, the first 1 we said, said he didn't say he was an informant, but this, everything else has said the opposite.

Speaker 0: Well, informant means he had a conversation with them and he gave them information. He informed them, right? You could technically say he's an FBI informant if you went to them with information.

Speaker 2: Oh, even if it's voluntary?

Speaker 0: Yes. Admitting that he was an informant for the FBI, Michel elaborated that he gave up information about U.S. Hostages in China, while at the same time being a liaison for China, who was working to get a Chinese criminal billionaire extradited back from the U.S. If this sounds like a big, ugly mess, it's because it is. Yeah.

It seems like he just got caught up in some shit where he's probably trying to make some money and they thought it would be clean and they're going to donate money to the Democratic Party and oh, it's great, working with all these people. Hey, Leonardo's working with them. Oh, must be fine. And that's 1 of the ways they get people involved in these, like, very shady deals, as they do it with other famous people. Like, hey, he's in there.

You should be in there too. Oh, okay. I'll let the hang out with Leo. Next thing you know, you're involved in some weird thing that's got you, you know, testifying in front of Congress.

Speaker 1: 1 thing you can guarantee, Joe Rogan, I'm never coming to an alien party with you. I love you, but you can have that shit on your own.

Speaker 0: No, no, no. If the aliens come, you're the first person I'm coming to. I'm like, we're going to Atlanta. If they grab me, and I'm like we're real who we gonna tell I'm like Oh found guilty on all 10 counts

Speaker 1: International from

Speaker 0: France Convicted guilty on 10 counts related to what prosecutors called a clandestine foreign intelligence campaign scheme funded by a wealthy Malaysian Financier to peddle influence in the United States see that's what I'm talking about They're peddling influence the week-long trial saw witnesses like Leonardo DiCaprio former Attorney General Jeff Sessions take the stand and testify under oath. Wow. He's fucked. The mayor's still at large. So that Malaysian guy's still at large.

He was charged as a co-defendant in Michele's case and played a major role in witness testimony and evidence presented to the jury according to the Justice Department. Lao, I don't know how you say it, lower Lao, allegedly misappropriated over 500 million from the sovereign wealth fund, Malaysian, 1 Malaysian development, Burhad, With wire transfers to shell companies he and others used or owned Okay, so he's fucked man if they if they made him he's going to jail 22 years what is he 50 fuck?

Speaker 1: He might not make it off that type of food.

Speaker 0: I think how many of those are going on where people aren't getting arrested though? Like how much of that influence peddling shit is just...

Speaker 1: It's been going on from the start. Forever. This ain't nothing new.

Speaker 0: I just don't... I'm still confused as to how he's in trouble.

Speaker 1: Me too.

Speaker 0: Like, what did he... He connected people that were trying to get a billionaire released, he became friends with Trump To try to get a guy released

Speaker 1: no Obama. Well. He was no he was just giving the money to Obama

Speaker 0: He's they he tried to establish a relationship with Steve Bannon and Trump

Speaker 1: and Jeff sessions.

Speaker 0: Yeah, how weird

Speaker 1: Not weird. It's just what goes on when I'll go no,

Speaker 0: but he's from the Fuji's like bro. Are you busy?

Speaker 1: He should have turned that shit into

Speaker 0: a song.

Speaker 2: He paid $20 million to get a picture with Obama.

Speaker 0: Lau paid Michelle $20 million in 2012 in order to get a picture of himself with Obama, and prosecutors allege that Michelle funneled over $800,000 of that money to Obama's campaign through a number of straw donors. Whoa! So he made a deal where this guy gave him $20 million. He said, I'll give you a picture with Obama, you gotta give me $20 million. And he said to Obama, listen, I'll give you 800,000.

Speaker 1: He didn't say that to Obama. He just said that he just started, he just made up all these accounts and then money.

Speaker 0: Yeah, but I mean, they must have had some. He funneled that money through a number of straw donors. That seems to me like that's how they would do it.

Speaker 1: Well somebody donate that type of money you want to know who it is. It's not like me who give you $20 and say no to the next $20.

Speaker 0: But they did it through these like hidden things.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it gets over a hundred million it says.

Speaker 1: So he knew what he was doing.

Speaker 0: Whoa. According to prosecutors, Lowe directed over $100 million to Michelle to help push the government, including Trump, to drop its investigation into Lowe. Prosecutors also say that Michelle advocated for the extradition of Chinese dissident, Gua Wen-Dui, on behalf of the Chinese government. He said he gave

Speaker 2: him 100 million for a media business he was starting.

Speaker 1: Can you imagine the Fuji, They ain't had a song in years, but they looking at him like, how is he living like that?

Speaker 0: The

Speaker 1: rest of the group, like, what the fuck is he over there doing? We ain't had a hit album since 93.

Speaker 0: I know, right?

Speaker 1: Early 2000. How is he living like that? All this time, he got a friend named Lo who's sending him millions through wire. He ain't telling nobody. He pulling in up in new cars and you like, I know everybody else in the group like, nigga what you

Speaker 0: up to?

Speaker 1: What the fuck you doing? But he ain't tell nobody. Thank God he didn't.

Speaker 0: Working on international policy. People be like

Speaker 1: what? I'm running for Congress.

Speaker 0: Influence peddling.

Speaker 1: No he didn't say all that. He said, I got a donor.

Speaker 0: What a dirty business politics is. The fact that they, like no one's mad at Obama for that No one's no one's mad at me getting the Democratic Party getting all that money. They don't have to give it back. All the money that got funneled from them, imagine if that got funneled to another person. That person would be in trouble.

Speaker 1: It would be.

Speaker 0: Right. But you get funneled to the Democratic Party like, hey, we're helping the good guys.

Speaker 1: The Republicans do the same thing.

Speaker 0: Everybody does.

Speaker 1: Everybody does.

Speaker 0: The idea that there's 2 teams fighting against each other, sure, for temporary control while they all share resources. If you look at the number of Congress people that are insider trading, it's everyone. It's across the board. It's red and blue. It's like Republican, Democrat.

They're all in there. They're all in cahoots. They're all pretending. They're all pretending they're working for us. They hate each other.

Speaker 1: They play like they hate

Speaker 0: each other.

Speaker 1: But yet you sneak up on 1 of their house, and there's Mitch McConnie at, what's her girl's name who just left, speak of the house, Nancy Pelosi house.

Speaker 0: Getting drunk, talking about all the shit they did.

Speaker 1: I'm telling Nancy Pelosi. How much

Speaker 0: you make off an apple?

Speaker 1: I'm sorry, your husband got his ass whooped. They wasn't supposed to go that far.

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