Taken from JRE MMA Show #139 w/Bas Rutten:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4mvmSvVtRdR10nJndCeywe?si=e5f89f5c7fee4423

I remember in 90, I think it was 94 or 95, I watched Pedro Hizzo work out at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu.

And that was when I realized how hard someone can kick you in the leg.

Yeah, I watched him kick the heavy bag, and I don't think there's ever I've never seen a human ever in all my day I've seen a lot of people kick.

Yeah, I've never seen a human kick harder than Pedro Hezo.

Oh, he's an animal, because he's got technique and he's got the weight.

He was kicking the bag and I remember thinking, 1 of those, I remember when he fought Rico Rodriguez.

He kicked Rico once and Rico's Fuck is that we can thank Abbott.

Yeah, look at that To cut air Pedro his a dance ever and far until he stopped dance ever with leg kicks.

I mean his his fucking leg kicks were insane I mean Randy Couture when he fought him like they they had a really convinced Randy to to fight him a second time and You know he had he had battered his fucking legs Cameron Randleman to

thought he knocked out Josh Barnett too and it was a lot of that.

And I'm telling you, I've seen so many people kick the bag.

No 1 has ever impressed me with a leg kick, a low kick on the bag, like Pedro Hizzo.

And he just had this power that was, you couldn't take them.

He was fucking people up with just kicking the thighs.

he hit you a couple times it was just like oh Jesus Christ I'm done.

Please please stop this fight, please Referees were a little bit more lenient Back then

and these are fighters imagine this happening to a person on the street Oh, if you don't know what a low-kick is and you're not flexing

He said I'll do an interview with you Let me kick your leg.

any he full power low kicked him and put a hairline fracture in this dude's tibia.

We just had to assign some autographs to get

like, He didn't even kick him full blast.

It would be evil Yeah, so the treated for a hairline fracture the femur.

Yeah, Jesus Christ Don't reporters if if someone says that to you say no.

I'm at the circus a shrine with my wife and this whole bus people are yelling out of the bus is these kids and They stopped the whole bus and they come out and they want me pictures and they want me to hit them

so I go You know and he goes thank you, but they look at me like asshole.

And my wife says, I think you have to hit him harder.

And then I start kicking the crap out of people legs.

It's fun, but you know they were much happier That's the way a thing they want you to hurt them because somehow that makes it.

it Didn't Jason Ellis let Chuck Liddell in his prime punch him in the arm full blast?

There's something about that gentleman that's a little

Oh Yeah, I don't yeah Yeah in the arm and

Chuck Liddell in his prime was a fucking monster.

Yeah, cuz he could take it Yeah, he could he could take a shot in the chin so good But he would just fucking wade forward almost daring you to hit him He made the UFC in 2005 when the UFC became popular It was popular because of the Forrest Griffin That did that the big final between Stefan Bonner and Forrest Griffin and the ultimate fighter made the UFC Everybody watched on TV.

This is wild, But then you got to see the champion.

You got to see Chuck Liddell when he was a fucking beast.

And he was a wrestler that never wrestled He never used his wrestling in the Octagon other than to get up He just wanted to fuck you up.

and trained by John Hackleman who's Old-school just old school that that place that he had in San Luis Obispo the pit Yeah, where he would make these guys do it He was like the originator of all these crazy workouts with wheelbarrows and shit there is Chocolate down man People forget he was a fucking monster because he was a big tall light heavyweight.

He was a huge guy crazy power and You couldn't take him down.

Yeah, his wrestling was incredible and Babalu was tough as fuck Babalu was another guy elite elite fighter Babalu was a fucking animal man.

There's a crazy Babalu soccer kick knockout of this really thick, muscled guy.

Forget who the dude was, but Babalu cracked him and then soccer kicked him.

It's oh Yeah, oh see if you can find that You can find that you got to give Babalu his props cuz Babalu was another guy of a guy that people forgot Oh fuck there.

Yes, I forget who the guy was so he gets it.

Oh With wrestling shoes on back there, right because they would let guys fight with wrestling shoes Brad Kohler Was that who it was?

I forget who the guy was, I think that's Brad Kohler.

When guys would fight with wrestling shoes on, which is very interesting Because you could do so much more with movement and with that grip from the wrestling shoes.

I just had an event was asked me to, for a student of his to, for karate combat.

So I went to show and he's already there.

I go, yeah, man, I'm looking forward to this.

But he's, you can see that he's trained by Yves, you know, but Yves, that was also 1 of those guys that you should keep an eye on.

He did the 1 knockout that he did 1 time.

The jumping knee when he had to single leg.

I always told my students I go if somebody has a single leg on you Imagine you jump up with the same leg that you jump in the face and then land on that same foot again Yeah, freaking Eve pulled it off.

So here Oh, this is this is the Josh Thompson kale and this by the way This is when Josh Thompson was 1 of the best in the world.

Josh Thompson gets up and Eve catches him right here.

And then Josh Thompson was the first guy to ever stop Nate Diaz.


Speaker 0: The Jorogun experience.

Speaker 1: Yeah, 93. This is when I started fighting. Imagine that. That's how old I was.

Speaker 0: I'm a freaking fossil. I remember in 90, I think it was 94 or 95, I watched Pedro Hizzo work out at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu. And that was when I realized how hard someone can kick you in the leg.

Speaker 1: Oh, yeah

Speaker 0: Yeah, I watched him kick the heavy bag, and I don't think there's ever I've never seen a human ever in all my day I've seen a lot of people kick. Yeah, I've never seen a human kick harder than Pedro Hezo.

Speaker 1: Oh, he's an animal, because he's got technique and he's got the weight.

Speaker 0: And he's got these giant fucking legs. Yeah.

Speaker 1: Oh my God. Yeah, kick by him, it's not fun.

Speaker 0: He was kicking the bag and I remember thinking, 1 of those, I remember when he fought Rico Rodriguez. He kicked Rico once and Rico's Fuck is that we can thank Abbott. Yeah, look at that To cut air Pedro his a dance ever and far until he stopped dance ever with leg kicks. I mean his his fucking leg kicks were insane I mean Randy Couture when he fought him like they they had a really convinced Randy to to fight him a second time and You know he had he had battered his fucking legs Cameron Randleman to

Speaker 1: tell him I

Speaker 0: thought he knocked out Josh Barnett too and it was a lot of that. His fucking Muay Thai. And he was Marco Juarez's prize pupil. He was his number 1 pupil. Pedro Hizzo was the fucking man.

He's another 1 that people forget. Pedro Hizzo, his fucking leg kicks, man. And I'm telling you, I've seen so many people kick the bag. No 1 has ever impressed me with a leg kick, a low kick on the bag, like Pedro Hizzo. Look at the size of his fucking legs.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're tree trunks. And he just had this power that was, you couldn't take them. And this is before the calf kick. You know, this is early days.

He was fucking people up with just kicking the thighs.

Speaker 1: As soon as

Speaker 0: he hit you a couple times it was just like oh Jesus Christ I'm done. I'm done. Please please stop this fight, please Referees were a little bit more lenient Back then

Speaker 1: and these are fighters imagine this happening to a person on the street Oh, if you don't know what a low-kick is and you're not flexing

Speaker 0: Well, Forrest Griffin kicked a reporter. He has some deal with a reporter. He said I'll do an interview with you Let me kick your leg.

Speaker 1: Oh, and he's not holding back

Speaker 0: any he full power low kicked him and put a hairline fracture in this dude's tibia.

Speaker 1: Ugh. Was it the tibia or the

Speaker 0: femur? 1 of the major bones.

Speaker 1: We just had to assign some autographs to get

Speaker 0: it like last week. Oh, this is it, yeah.

Speaker 1: Oh, no.

Speaker 0: Oh, God!

Speaker 1: Oy, oy, you know, this is... And he's

Speaker 0: like, He didn't even kick him full blast.

Speaker 1: No, I don't think you can. I literally, you're going to break.

Speaker 0: It would be evil. It would be evil Yeah, so the treated for a hairline fracture the femur. Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 0: Yeah, Jesus Christ Don't reporters if if someone says that to you say no. Thank you. I would rather not interview you sir

Speaker 1: I'm at the circus a shrine with my wife and this whole bus people are yelling out of the bus is these kids and They stopped the whole bus and they come out and they want me pictures and they want me to hit them

Speaker 0: Oh God,

Speaker 1: so I go You know and he goes thank you, but they look at me like asshole. And I go, what is the look? And my wife says, I think you have to hit him harder. I go, you serious? Yeah, I go, come back.

Yeah. Boom, and he's going, ah! I go, oh,

Speaker 0: thank you! Oh, in the shoulder?

Speaker 1: Oh, God. They loved it. And then I start kicking the crap out of people legs. It's fun, but you know they were much happier That's the way a thing they want you to hurt them because somehow that makes it. I don't know

Speaker 0: I don't get it I

Speaker 1: don't get it. I don't get

Speaker 0: it Didn't Jason Ellis let Chuck Liddell in his prime punch him in the arm full blast? I think there's a video of that.

Speaker 1: That's not a smart thing to do.

Speaker 0: Jason Ellis is a psychopath though. He's crazy. Yeah. Funny. He's very funny.

I think he enjoys a little bit of pain. There's something about that gentleman that's a little

Speaker 1: bit off.

Speaker 0: Yeah, here it is. This is Chuck in his fucking prime, too. Oh, no, okay. Oh Yeah, I don't yeah Yeah in the arm and

Speaker 1: you just see Chuck's he he wanted to go. You saw his face?

Speaker 0: Yeah, he gets crazy.

Speaker 1: He gets crazy when he

Speaker 0: hits it. That fucking switch gets turned. Oh yeah. Chuck, that's another 1. Chuck Liddell in his prime was a fucking monster.

Yeah, cuz he could take it Yeah, he could he could take a shot in the chin so good But he would just fucking wade forward almost daring you to hit him He made the UFC in 2005 when the UFC became popular It was popular because of the Forrest Griffin That did that the big final between Stefan Bonner and Forrest Griffin and the ultimate fighter made the UFC Everybody watched on TV. They're like what is this? This is wild, But then you got to see the champion. You got to see Chuck Liddell when he was a fucking beast. Put up Chuck Liddell versus Babalu.

See if you can find that. He was hunting people. He was hunting people. And he was a wrestler that never wrestled He never used his wrestling in the Octagon other than to get up He just wanted to fuck you up. You know and

Speaker 1: he was really good at it

Speaker 0: and trained by John Hackleman who's Old-school just old school that that place that he had in San Luis Obispo the pit Yeah, where he would make these guys do it He was like the originator of all these crazy workouts with wheelbarrows and shit there is Chocolate down man People forget he was a fucking monster because he was a big tall light heavyweight. He was a huge guy crazy power and You couldn't take him down. Yeah, his wrestling was incredible and Babalu was tough as fuck Babalu was another guy elite elite fighter Babalu was a fucking animal man. There's a crazy Babalu soccer kick knockout of this really thick, muscled guy. Forget who the dude was, but Babalu cracked him and then soccer kicked him.

It's oh Yeah, oh see if you can find that You can find that you got to give Babalu his props cuz Babalu was another guy of a guy that people forgot Oh fuck there. It is

Speaker 1: is that it?

Speaker 0: Yes, I forget who the guy was so he gets it. Yeah, it's right before that. Oh With wrestling shoes on back there, right because they would let guys fight with wrestling shoes Brad Kohler Was that who it was? I forget who the guy was, I think that's Brad Kohler. Who was another tank.

God damn those early days. Those

Speaker 1: early days were wild.

Speaker 0: They're crazy. When guys would fight with wrestling shoes on, which is very interesting Because you could do so much more with movement and with that grip from the wrestling shoes.

Speaker 1: I just had an event was asked me to, for a student of his to, for karate combat. So I went to show and he's already there. I go, oh, this is 2 months ago. They already allowed you. I go, yeah, man, I'm looking forward to this.

But he's, you can see that he's trained by Yves, you know, but Yves, that was also 1 of those guys that you should keep an eye on. He did the 1 knockout that he did 1 time. Josh Thompson. The jumping knee when he had to single leg. Did you ever see that?

Yes? I always told my students I go if somebody has a single leg on you Imagine you jump up with the same leg that you jump in the face and then land on that same foot again Yeah, freaking Eve pulled it off.

Speaker 0: Yeah, Eve was a leap. Yeah Eve was elite man. So here Oh, this is this is the Josh Thompson kale and this by the way This is when Josh Thompson was 1 of the best in the world. So it's in a scramble. They break loose here.

Josh Thompson gets up and Eve catches him right here. Boom!

Speaker 1: Oh, and I remember that.

Speaker 0: With a jumping round kick. And then Josh Thompson was the first guy to ever stop Nate Diaz. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: I was there.

Speaker 0: Josh Thompson, Same kick. Yeah, yeah. Head kick. Head kick of Nate Diaz.

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