Taken from JRE #1997 w/Cameron Hanes:
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It's like we have these ideas about what these things are that's based on a bullshit version of them including the Yellowstone version When we were in Yellowstone You could hang out 10 feet from an elk.

They're hanging out in the visitor center They're laying down in front of everybody

that was probably not September then because they weren't rutting.

No, they weren't rutting No, no, it was the summertime, but it was it was still it was totally alien behavior

like completely domesticated yeah, And just imagine what it was like when they reintroduced wolves into that area.

Because this is this is the animal that you're dealing you're forcing an animal to be reintegrated with the most ferocious death.

So you think there's too many of them, you think it's imbalanced, you think they shouldn't have killed off the wolves.

Now you're just gonna, all these cute elk that have been hanging out at the visitor center are just gonna get butchered.

And they don't know what the fuck a wolf is.

They've had generation after generation after generation, no wolves.

No, occasional mountain lion, whatever, whatever.

But an occasional mountain lion is nothing like a pack of wolves.

A pack of wolves makes a whole lot more wolves and they all stay together and they hunt together.

you- They got some sort of telepathy or something going on.

You've seen where they communicate where 1 wolf will tire out, the next wolf will fill in.

And it's, yeah, they're just, they'll wipe stuff out.

Just like the brown bear and those, you know, those 7 brown bear, they're just, they're born to kill.

So it's not, I saw somebody said on my page, they said, well, wouldn't they kill and just sit, come back and just eat off that for later and, you know, live off that 1 kill?

They don't have any idea of conservationism that their idea is to just kill everything that's in front of them and there was a What was it recently?

There was a crazy 1 where this pack of wolves killed like an enormous number of elk It was like 18 elk something crazy.

Yeah, just went on a rampage Yeah, Just I don't know what happened or how they got so many

But it happens with livestock all the time.

Well, can you see if you find it was like surplus killing?

I believe it was in Wyoming if I remember correctly But they were shocked.

Yeah, they didn't even know weren't even eating them,

that I mean, that's what they're born to do

Yeah, wolf pack slaughters 19 elk in rare surplus killing.

I mean, so even that word rare, who's saying rare?

Well, I think it's rare they get that many.

I wonder what the circumstances were where they could kill that many.

There's a photo of all the elf length line right that was right up It's horrible.

Yeah, I just I'm not convinced that it's rare I think it's rare that we find out about it.

How many wolves did that that's what I want to know I don't know.

I want to know how many wolves if there's 19 What do you got 50 wolves up there?

I got their fucking super packs up there that we don't know about

Have a good accounting of how many wolves are up there.

Oh, it says 9 wolves Yeah, I was gonna say I don't think it would take that many to do that.

That's incredible because those are all see It's 17 calves.

So that's that's kind of the point with that muskox video is those were calves They don't they can't run

I mean they they can't run like a full-grown what muskox or elk or anything else So they're they're pretty much just right for the picking that's bear even black bear will follow elk around when they know it's calving season Right when the calf is born, they'll kill it

They said Lund also described the kill to CNN as sport killing Although the consensus among biologists and wildlife officials is that wolves do not hunt for sport But sometimes kill more than they can eat at 1 point Especially in winter when frigid temperatures preserve the killed prey for later consumption.

I bet they can't help themselves when they see calves.

Yeah, it's like a kitten with a ball of yarn.

Roll a ball of yarn in front of a kitten.

They just If they see babies, like baby moose, baby deer, baby elk, like fuck.

You don't get a chance They're babies for a short amount of time You gotta get them now

somebody else said that too that they didn't know animals kill just for the fun of it.

Bro, housecats kill literally billions of animals a year.

I mean, it's all, I bet a lot of the killing is done by actual feral cats, but a lot of it is done by people's pets.


Speaker 0: The Jerogen Experience

Speaker 1: It's like we have these ideas about what these things are that's based on a bullshit version of them including the Yellowstone version When we were in Yellowstone You could hang out 10 feet from an elk. They're just Right there,

Speaker 0: right?

Speaker 1: They don't worry about people at all. They're hanging out in the visitor center They're laying down in front of everybody

Speaker 0: that was probably not September then because they weren't rutting.

Speaker 1: No, they weren't rutting No, no, it was the summertime, but it was it was still it was totally alien behavior

Speaker 0: right

Speaker 1: like completely domesticated yeah, And just imagine what it was like when they reintroduced wolves into that area.

Speaker 0: Oh God.

Speaker 1: Bloodbath. Because this is this is the animal that you're dealing you're forcing an animal to be reintegrated with the most ferocious death. So you think there's too many of them, you think it's imbalanced, you think they shouldn't have killed off the wolves. Okay, well, now what? Now you're just gonna, all these cute elk that have been hanging out at the visitor center are just gonna get butchered.

And they don't know what the fuck a wolf is. They've had generation after generation after generation, no wolves. They're like, no wolves, great. We're just out here, hanging out. No, occasional mountain lion, whatever, whatever.

But an occasional mountain lion is nothing like a pack of wolves. No, no. A pack of wolves makes a whole lot more wolves and they all stay together and they hunt together.

Speaker 0: They got a process for killing. They got it down. They got it down. You know,

Speaker 1: you- They got some sort of telepathy or something going on.

Speaker 0: You've seen where they communicate where 1 wolf will tire out, the next wolf will fill in. Yeah. Like a little relay team. Yeah. Wearing out 1 animal.

Yeah. You know, the prey animal. And it's, yeah, they're just, they'll wipe stuff out. Just like the brown bear and those, you know, those 7 brown bear, they're just, they're born to kill. They don't know when to stop, you know?

So it's not, I saw somebody said on my page, they said, well, wouldn't they kill and just sit, come back and just eat off that for later and, you know, live off that 1 kill? I'm like, what? What are you talking about?

Speaker 1: They go on rampages sometimes.

Speaker 0: No, you flip that switch on. Yeah. They're killing everything.

Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not like Native Americans. They only wanna like kill what they use.

Speaker 0: I'm using every piece of this animal.

Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they're not like that. They don't have any idea of conservationism that their idea is to just kill everything that's in front of them and there was a What was it recently? There was a crazy 1 where this pack of wolves killed like an enormous number of elk It was like 18 elk something crazy. Yeah, just went on a rampage Yeah, Just I don't know what happened or how they got so many

Speaker 0: of them. But it happens with livestock all the time.

Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, can you see if you find it was like surplus killing? I believe it was in Wyoming if I remember correctly But they were shocked. They were like Jesus. They just killed them.

Yeah, they didn't even know weren't even eating them,

Speaker 0: right?

Speaker 1: They just went on a rampage. They weren't hungry

Speaker 0: that I mean, that's what they're born to do

Speaker 1: Yeah, wolf pack slaughters 19 elk in rare surplus killing. So this is in

Speaker 0: 2016. It's not rare though. I mean, so even that word rare, who's saying rare?

Speaker 1: Well, I think it's rare they get that many. I wonder what the circumstances were where they could kill that many. There's a photo of all the elf length line right that was right up It's horrible. Yeah, look at that. That's crazy.

Speaker 0: Yeah, I just I'm not convinced that it's rare I think it's rare that we find out about it.

Speaker 1: How many wolves did that that's what I want to know I don't know. I want to know how many wolves if there's 19 What do you got 50 wolves up there? You got a hundred wolves? I got their fucking super packs up there that we don't know about

Speaker 0: I don't I

Speaker 1: Have a good accounting of how many wolves are up there.

Speaker 0: Oh, it says 9 wolves Yeah, I was gonna say I don't think it would take that many to do that. That's incredible because those are all see It's 17 calves. So that's that's kind of the point with that muskox video is those were calves They don't they can't run

Speaker 1: and 2 adults. Yeah, so yeah calves and 2 adults Wow

Speaker 0: I mean they they can't run like a full-grown what muskox or elk or anything else So they're they're pretty much just right for the picking that's bear even black bear will follow elk around when they know it's calving season Right when the calf is born, they'll kill it

Speaker 1: They said Lund also described the kill to CNN as sport killing Although the consensus among biologists and wildlife officials is that wolves do not hunt for sport But sometimes kill more than they can eat at 1 point Especially in winter when frigid temperatures preserve the killed prey for later consumption. You know what I bet, though? I bet they can't help themselves when they see calves. No. That's what I'm saying.

The switch is on. Yeah, it's like a kitten with a ball of yarn. Roll a ball of yarn in front of a kitten. They just If they see babies, like baby moose, baby deer, baby elk, like fuck. Time to kill.

Time to kill. You don't get a chance They're babies for a short amount of time You gotta get them now

Speaker 0: somebody else said that too that they didn't know animals kill just for the fun of it. I'm like, you ever seen a housecat?

Speaker 1: Bro, housecats kill literally billions of animals a year. Or feral cats, really. Mostly outdoor cats. I mean, it's all, I bet a lot of the killing is done by actual feral cats, but a lot of it is done by people's pets.

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