Taken from JRE #2003 w/Killer Mike:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4MXoQ6wWLIo9FhbNcGImQC?si=ebf4baa5328f4293

Yo, shout out to that lady who's Emmy nominated that hates me.

I had never thought about winning an Emmy in my life, but because you hated on me when I got, and she hates me for the most ridiculous reason, God bless her soul.

She hates me just because I'm not a Democrat, Nick Duboy, you know what I mean?

Like I've had Democrats I like and I push for him especially locally, but I'm sorry lady I can't be a do-boy and God bless me to fuck around and get rich I really I don't take money from any politicians or political party So if you see me standing next to someone's cuz I really believe And if they don't convince me to believe I'm not gonna stand next to him, right?

She wanted me to stand next to somebody, I'm like, you know, sorry lady, I've had some conversations with her, you know, I've just, I've tried my best, but I'm not hatin', but it's just ain't my thing.

But this chick was just like, I'm gonna use my platform to, and I'm like, you don't really have a platform?

But in her bio, she's an Emmy nominated actress, man, winning that Emmy sure felt good.

I blocked her but I'm sure someone has told her but I'm just like holding it I hope she sees the picture like yeah thank God for your hate lady because it made me care.

I went to the I went to the ceremonies and walked away with a trophy

and to her there was a study that was done recently about left-wing authoritarianism and the way certain people behave and that it's just it's like a bunch of different psychological conditions that are, they're almost indistinguishable from like,

See if you can find what their conclusions were.

But at the fringes, when people, what happens is when you have groups That are ideal the ideological groups whether it's the left or the right

you're gonna get people that just join that group that are absolutely insane

And if you don't call it out, then you have a giant problem because people are going to associate you with whatever the worst aspects of your, like right-wing Proud Boys,

The experts somehow overlooked authoritarians on the left.

Many psychologists wrongly assume that coercive attitudes exist only among conservatives.

did a speech for fire for the organization fire and I miss said I'm sorry the brown shirts of Italy But I'm what I meant was the brown shirts of Germany that as the as the left as you accomplish more power politically don't use it as a bludgeon in the same way you've perceived it to be used against you.

That you have to rule, quote unquote, in a more fair and equitable way.

You can't let your fair and equitable thoughts become totalitarian.

Yeah, and you also can't give in to this crazy instinct that we all humans have to be tribal.

Yeah, it's both sides, but we tend, I grew up, I was fortunate enough to grow up in a household where my grandmother was SCLC member, had, from Tuskegee, had been a part, born in 1932, had been a part of civil rights stuff.

My grandfather, So my grandmother grew up on a farm, could go to school.

They weren't wealthy, but they had food, they had sustenance, they had education.

My grandfather grew up working a sawmill at 8 years old because his father abandoned his family and he had to feed his mothers and sisters.

So his mentality was much more libertarian, I would say.

His mentality was, if God gave you an appetite and a mind to build a fishing rod, you should be able to catch fish.

And my grandmother was like, you shouldn't complain about having to buy a fishing license because the game warden has to make sure things are legit and somebody has to clean up the park.

So I got a chance to see these wonderful political arguments between these 2 people that loved each other.

You know, my grandmother, college-educated woman, my grandfather drove a truck and hauled moonshine and gambled, you know what I mean?

I never saw him walk in the church, but they had these great debates that showed me that there are no absolutes, that there are going to be some things from each side that make sense to run a good household.

And I watched them just do it right, you know what I'm saying?

And I'm glad I saw that because I don't feel married to any ideology.

Yeah, getting attached to ideologies is always a bad idea.

Particularly when human beings in America have 2 choices.

They adhere to whatever this side's doing

And then you have some weird problematic figures like Trump who comes along

and like there's a lot of never Trump or Republicans They don't know what to do.

But I say in this crazy-ass country, pay attention to the people who have no chance of winning sometimes because they're gonna be some truths told.

Like no matter what you feel about Trump, there was a moment in that debate, Chappelle talks about it, When Trump said, of course these loopholes exist, they exist, he was talking to Hillary.

Like, hell yeah, I'm gonna take advantage of the loophole because they also exist for the people who donate in your campaign.

I was like, finally, a member of the oligarchy class says, yeah, motherfucker, we're cheating.

And I was just like, at that point, Americans should have said, hard reset.

Like they literally should have said, pre-Eisenhower, hard reset, we're going to reform all this shit, the money's going to work different.

Because we're all complacent in some capacity.

We're all accompanied in this grand scheme that's fucking us over.

And if you don't have an educated constituency of proletariat, it's all just going to counter-reform.

So like doing this election, people are like, who are you supporting?

I was like, I don't give a fuck nationally.

I give a fuck that Cornel West is in the race.

Cause I'm interested to see what he's going to say.

Kennedy, I'm interested just to hear, you know, whatever crazy shit people think he's, whoever else is running.

I'm just interested because the 2 parties we know we got, but there are all these little voices that pop up, that little grains of truth.

They're staying no chance of winning in some cases, but let me just take a grain of what you're saying and that way I'll know what to take back to the party that wins and say, hey, what about this?

Why do we have money for this, but we don't have money for this?

Like Sanders, people told me, like Mike, you're a business guy, you like money.

Sanders even said, hey, I think you're gonna be a billionaire I'm gonna tax the shit out of you too.

We were laughing and joking backstage at the Amazon worker strike that we were both supporting but my thing is I don't want to pay the government more taxes but if I gotta pay more taxes let me pay with the guys plan who's going to educate kids and trades and scholarship for free because that way I'm making a 20-year investment so that my 16 year old daughter when she's 36 has a much better country full of educated kids versus I bought more missiles.

But if you don't put him in now, I am a millionaire.

I'm going to do my best to protect my fucking money.

I was born just a working-cash black kid named Michael.

Michael never liked working at 6 Flags or AutoZone or UPS.

So once Michael fucked around and figured out how to sing and dance and make some money, Michael wants to save more of his money than spend,


Speaker 0: The Joe Rogan Experience. It brings us back to haters. They can get inspiration from people. You get juice.

Speaker 1: Yo, shout out to that lady who's Emmy nominated that hates me. God bless your soul, woman. I had never thought about winning an Emmy in my life, but because you hated on me when I got, and she hates me for the most ridiculous reason, God bless her soul. She hates me just because I'm not a Democrat, Nick Duboy, you know what I mean? Like I've had Democrats I like and I push for him especially locally, but I'm sorry lady I can't be a do-boy and God bless me to fuck around and get rich I really I don't take money from any politicians or political party So if you see me standing next to someone's cuz I really believe And if they don't convince me to believe I'm not gonna stand next to him, right?

She wanted me to stand next to somebody, I'm like, you know, sorry lady, I've had some conversations with her, you know, I've just, I've tried my best, but I'm not hatin', but it's just ain't my thing. But this chick was just like, I'm gonna use my platform to, and I'm like, you don't really have a platform? But in her bio, she's an Emmy nominated actress, man, winning that Emmy sure felt good. I blocked her but I'm sure someone has told her but I'm just like holding it I hope she sees the picture like yeah thank God for your hate lady because it made me care. I went to the I went to the ceremonies and walked away with a trophy

Speaker 2: Congratulations. Yeah, thank you

Speaker 0: and to her there was a study that was done recently about left-wing authoritarianism and the way certain people behave and that it's just it's like a bunch of different psychological conditions that are, they're almost indistinguishable from like,

Speaker 2: horrible narcissism,

Speaker 0: horrible psychotic behavior. See if you can find what their conclusions were. But at the fringes, when people, what happens is when you have groups That are ideal the ideological groups whether it's the left or the right

Speaker 1: Yeah,

Speaker 0: you're gonna get people that just join that group that are absolutely insane

Speaker 1: Yeah

Speaker 0: And if you don't call it out, then you have a giant problem because people are going to associate you with whatever the worst aspects of your, like right-wing Proud Boys,

Speaker 1: like that kind of shit.

Speaker 0: The experts somehow overlooked authoritarians on the left. Many psychologists wrongly assume that coercive attitudes exist only among conservatives. Of course, it's a human characteristic I

Speaker 1: did a speech for fire for the organization fire and I miss said I'm sorry the brown shirts of Italy But I'm what I meant was the brown shirts of Germany that as the as the left as you accomplish more power politically don't use it as a bludgeon in the same way you've perceived it to be used against you. That you have to rule, quote unquote, in a more fair and equitable way. You can't let your fair and equitable thoughts become totalitarian.

Speaker 0: Yeah, and you also can't give in to this crazy instinct that we all humans have to be tribal. Yes. And I am a Democrat. I am

Speaker 3: a lifelong blue no matter who.

Speaker 0: You can't, that's

Speaker 1: not wise. Yeah, it's both sides, but we tend, I grew up, I was fortunate enough to grow up in a household where my grandmother was SCLC member, had, from Tuskegee, had been a part, born in 1932, had been a part of civil rights stuff. My grandfather, So my grandmother grew up on a farm, could go to school. They weren't wealthy, but they had food, they had sustenance, they had education. My grandfather grew up working a sawmill at 8 years old because his father abandoned his family and he had to feed his mothers and sisters.

So his mentality was much more libertarian, I would say. His mentality was, if God gave you an appetite and a mind to build a fishing rod, you should be able to catch fish. And my grandmother was like, you shouldn't complain about having to buy a fishing license because the game warden has to make sure things are legit and somebody has to clean up the park. So I got a chance to see these wonderful political arguments between these 2 people that loved each other. You know, my grandmother, college-educated woman, my grandfather drove a truck and hauled moonshine and gambled, you know what I mean?

He married this God-fearing woman. I never saw him walk in the church, but they had these great debates that showed me that there are no absolutes, that there are going to be some things from each side that make sense to run a good household. And I watched them just do it right, you know what I'm saying? And I'm glad I saw that because I don't feel married to any ideology. That's beautiful.

That's important. Shouts out to Betty and Willie. God bless the dead, man.

Speaker 0: Yeah, getting attached to ideologies is always a bad idea. Particularly when human beings in America have 2 choices. You have 2 choices,

Speaker 4: the left and the right. And people just like, they adhere. They adhere to whatever this side's doing

Speaker 0: because they want them to win.

Speaker 3: And then you have some weird problematic figures like Trump who comes along

Speaker 2: and like there's a lot of never Trump or Republicans They don't know what to do.

Speaker 1: But I say in this crazy-ass country, pay attention to the people who have no chance of winning sometimes because they're gonna be some truths told. Like no matter what you feel about Trump, there was a moment in that debate, Chappelle talks about it, When Trump said, of course these loopholes exist, they exist, he was talking to Hillary. Like, hell yeah, I'm gonna take advantage of the loophole because they also exist for the people who donate in your campaign. I was like, finally, a member of the oligarchy class says, yeah, motherfucker, we're cheating. And I was just like, at that point, Americans should have said, hard reset.

Like they literally should have said, pre-Eisenhower, hard reset, we're going to reform all this shit, the money's going to work different. None of us said a goddamn thing. And you know why? Because we're all complacent in some capacity. We're all accompanied in this grand scheme that's fucking us over.

And if you don't have an educated constituency of proletariat, it's all just going to counter-reform. So like doing this election, people are like, who are you supporting? I was like, I don't give a fuck nationally. I give a fuck that Cornel West is in the race. Cause I'm interested to see what he's going to say.

Kennedy, I'm interested just to hear, you know, whatever crazy shit people think he's, whoever else is running. I'm just interested because the 2 parties we know we got, but there are all these little voices that pop up, that little grains of truth. They're staying no chance of winning in some cases, but let me just take a grain of what you're saying and that way I'll know what to take back to the party that wins and say, hey, what about this? Why do we have money for this, but we don't have money for this? Like Sanders, people told me, like Mike, you're a business guy, you like money.

Sanders even said, hey, I think you're gonna be a billionaire I'm gonna tax the shit out of you too. We were laughing and joking backstage at the Amazon worker strike that we were both supporting but my thing is I don't want to pay the government more taxes but if I gotta pay more taxes let me pay with the guys plan who's going to educate kids and trades and scholarship for free because that way I'm making a 20-year investment so that my 16 year old daughter when she's 36 has a much better country full of educated kids versus I bought more missiles. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 0: Yes, yes, yeah. That's possible.

Speaker 1: But if you don't put him in now, I am a millionaire. I'm going to do my best to protect my fucking money. Yeah. Because I wasn't born a millionaire. You know what I mean?

I was born just a working-cash black kid named Michael. Yeah. You know what I mean? And Michael had to... Michael never liked working at 6 Flags or AutoZone or UPS.

So once Michael fucked around and figured out how to sing and dance and make some money, Michael wants to save more of his money than spend,

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