Taken from JRE Fight Companion - August 5, 2023:
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The Joe Rogan Experience up like considerably right?

But then recently he's trying to get me to take a fight and then he even called my manager and I was like, hey bud, are you out of your fucking mind?

He is serious about you fighting bare knuckle MMA.

off as a joke when Jorge came on and he was like, well we went out for you a fight and I'm like, it's not happening dude.

And we were just joking around, I was like, I'll fight another comedian, I'll fight Louis C.K.

And Brian's like, oh Derek Lewis, I'm like, Are you out of your fucking mind?

Then they threw out another name, like, I could beat that guy tonight in my shorts.

I'll tell you, you're talking multiple 7 figures.

I guess for my ego, I'm like, damn, that's cool.

I'm like you have any idea I'd have to hope everything I'm doing Yeah Can they camp for 4 months just to get in that fight shape and it's not like I'm fighting UFC Which I'm used to which 10 years ago, bro You're talking bare-knuckle MMA and they want to do in Denver where they allow head stomps against Derek Lewis.

Oh, wait a minute, this is bare knuckle MMA?

if they go knees to the head on the ground, that's the trifecta.

The biggest game changer, headbutts is 1 too, because when headbutts are legal, the guard changes.

When headbutts are legal, this is your guard.

Overhook here, and you're like this, protecting your head.

You're like, always put your, that's how you fight.

Then when they outlawed head butts, shit changed, and you could open up a little bit.

But when they outlawed elbows to the back of the head, that changed everything.

Because there was a time where I'm like, why even get good at rear naked chokes?

As soon as they get the back, you see like, Henzo did it, I remember John was.

Soon as you get the back, you throw 3 elbows, then everybody taps.

You don't even need to develop any kind of skill to choke someone out.

Those elbows at the back of the head, once they took that shit out, changed a lot.

But changed a lot, because that is such a vulnerable place.

and he can he can you don't even see him.

Yeah, I think that's how the Henzo Gracie Ben like yes, He got his back and he just started dropping bows on the back of his head.

And remember he stepped on his neck when he stepped off of him.

And the guy kept calling him in his hotel, like all throughout, all hours of the night so

I forget which fight it was, but they pulled the fire alarm.

I'm like, you're waking up my opponent to you, dumbass.

Yeah, I don't know why he would try to get you to do that.

Yeah, do you have a fucking secret conversation


Speaker 0: The Joe Rogan Experience up like considerably right?

Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah. I'll take the dogs. But then recently he's trying to get me to take a fight and then he even called my manager and I was like, hey bud, are you out of your fucking mind? Yeah, he

Speaker 0: was talking about it on the podcast. He is serious. He is serious about you fighting bare knuckle MMA. It started

Speaker 1: off as a joke when Jorge came on and he was like, well we went out for you a fight and I'm like, it's not happening dude. And we were just joking around, I was like, I'll fight another comedian, I'll fight Louis C.K. Or Tim Dillon, like joking around.

Speaker 2: And he's like, no, Derek Lewis is

Speaker 1: a free agent. And Brian's like, oh Derek Lewis, I'm like, Are you out of your fucking mind?

Speaker 0: Are you crazy?

Speaker 1: Then they threw out another name, like, I could beat that guy tonight in my shorts.

Speaker 2: And then afterwards, the money they

Speaker 1: were throwing around is insane, dude.

Speaker 2: And I wouldn't do it.

Speaker 0: How's he getting so much money?

Speaker 1: They have big time funders. The money's stupid. I'll tell you, you're talking multiple 7 figures. Wow. I guess for my ego, I'm like, damn, that's cool.

You think I'm worth that? Definitely not. But it's great, it's a compliment. But Brian's out of his fucking mind. I'm like you have any idea I'd have to hope everything I'm doing Yeah Can they camp for 4 months just to get in that fight shape and it's not like I'm fighting UFC Which I'm used to which 10 years ago, bro You're talking bare-knuckle MMA and they want to do in Denver where they allow head stomps against Derek Lewis.

Speaker 0: Are you

Speaker 1: out of your fucking mind?

Speaker 3: Oh, wait a minute, this is bare knuckle MMA? Yes. I like that.

Speaker 0: Do they allow soccer kicks?

Speaker 1: I don't know. I think so.

Speaker 3: Man, if you could head stomp a guy.

Speaker 0: Both of those come up. Both those come up a lot.

Speaker 4: Soccer kicks, head stomps, and

Speaker 0: if they go knees to the head on the ground, that's the trifecta. That's the

Speaker 3: trifecta of hitting techniques. The biggest game changer, headbutts is 1 too, because when headbutts are legal, the guard changes. When headbutts are legal, this is your guard. Go watch any old Vali-Tudo.

Speaker 1: For sure.

Speaker 3: Overhook here, and you're like this, protecting your head. That was the stance. They all

Speaker 0: stood like that.

Speaker 3: You're like, always put your, that's how you fight.

Speaker 0: So you

Speaker 3: gotta- Mark

Speaker 0: Horner was the master of

Speaker 1: that, remember?

Speaker 3: Then when they outlawed head butts, shit changed, and you could open up a little bit. But when they outlawed elbows to the back of the head, that changed everything. Because there was a time where I'm like, why even get good at rear naked chokes? As soon as they get the back, you see like, Henzo did it, I remember John was. Soon as you get the back, you throw 3 elbows, then everybody taps.

You don't even need to develop any kind of skill to choke someone out. Those elbows at the back of the head, once they took that shit out, changed a lot.

Speaker 0: But changed a lot, because that is such a vulnerable place. You got a guy riding your back

Speaker 1: and saying

Speaker 0: and he can he can you don't even see him. Yeah, he's behind you

Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's how the Henzo Gracie Ben like yes, He got his back and he just started dropping bows on the back of his head.

Speaker 0: And remember he stepped on his neck when he stepped off of him.

Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently

Speaker 3: the guy was talking a lot of shit.

Speaker 0: And the guy kept calling him in his hotel, like all throughout, all hours of the night so

Speaker 1: he wouldn't get any sleep.

Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: He had to Put the

Speaker 0: phone in a drawer.

Speaker 1: Some fans. I forget which fight it was, but they pulled the fire alarm. I'm like, you're waking up my opponent to you, dumbass. Fucking idiots. He's in Toronto, I think.

Well. But Brian's out of his mind regardless.

Speaker 0: Yeah, I don't know why he would try to get you to do that. Unless he's getting a piece of it. Got it. Is he trying to get a piece of

Speaker 1: that?

Speaker 3: Agent piece.

Speaker 0: Yeah, do you have a fucking secret conversation

Speaker 1: with... He might have, without me knowing.

Speaker 3: Good job, we'll give you $20,000.

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