Taken from JRE #2024 w/Hulk Hogan and Tony Hinchcliffe:
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The Joe Rogan Experience Well I gotta give it to Sloan.

He took all the hits and all the bumps and...

Yeah I kind of messed his collarbone up, you know, by accident.

I mean I remember when I was going to go do that film, Vince McMahon Sr.

Fired me because of that, because of that movie.

Oh yeah, Vince Sr., that's who I started working for, brother, yeah, Vince McMahon Sr.

So it's not the Vince McMahon that's an old

When I first went to New York in 78, Vince McMahon Sr.

Had a couple of Phil Zakkos and a couple of partners.

Had 1 building, I think, in Cape Cod, and Vince would come in once every 3 weeks, he'd hold a stick like Mean Gene.

So when I first started there were 70, however long I lasted until probably mid-80s, and I told Vince Sr.

I got this crazy call to come out and do a Stallone movie.

First I was in the dressing room and Girl of Monsoon gave me the note.

I went, yeah, right, I threw it away because Stallone was like 150 feet tall in the public's eyes and I saw Rocky 1 and Rocky 2.

So I said, yeah, another wrestling joke, you know, like pooping in my bag or putting lots of stuff, you know.

So I split to Japan for like 8 weeks and when I came back again to TV again in Allentown, they handed me a Western Union letter, this time from Stallone.

So I flew out there and talked with him and got in the ring with him and did a couple things.

If you want to hear about that, that's a little different.

Well, when I went out there, I just had my nose broke in Japan for like the second or third time.

And when I went out there, I was so enamored and such a fan of his.

They had a guy with 1 of those big cameras, old school cameras, you know, when I came in, so I knew I was on camera, you know, sorry.

And so he goes, hey, let's just get in the ring and move around.

He goes, oh, I was just getting in the ring like this.

I said, well, if you want to, you can hit me in

I thought it'd be cool if he splattered my nose.

It was right after I had my nose broken in Japan.

He'd just stand behind you with a sumps and push everything down.

But so I got in the ring, he goes, try to hit me, you know?

And so, when he went to hit me, I just grabbed him.

I said, there's a certain place I can hit you harder than others.

But if I hit you as hard as I can, it's not going to be cool.

He was, because they were filming this whole thing.

So I said, well, you try to hit me, I'll grab you, I'll bend you over and I'll hammer you between the shoulders.

And as soon as I made contact, his face hit my cowboy boots.

And so he was all excited, you know, just because I hit him.

Yeah, and then we got out of the ring and he goes, you're a fake wrestler.

You know, boxers can kick a wrestler's ass anytime.

So he wanted me to do an interview, right?

So I did, let me tell you something, you know, that whole stick.

He goes, I'll give you $10,000 to do the film.

Me being the negotiation genius that I am, I'm like, I want 15.

So he gave me $14,000 and I signed whatever

I signed whatever he wanted back in the day.

no even given the 50 that's some but negotiation bullshit right there

But to go backwards I had called Vince McMahon senior that night from Fall River, Massachusetts Because I was wrestling at a high school in Fall River, Massachusetts And I called Vince because he was my guy We were We were really good friends on top of him helping me, giving me the break, Vince Sr.

I call him in Fort Lauderdale and I said, brother, I'm leaving tomorrow to go to LA to do this film.

You have to be in Charlotte at noon for TV with Crockett because that's where Flair and all those guys where he was sending me down to that southern swing wrestling thing I Said no, I told you I'm not gonna do that.

You know, I said I'm gonna go do this movie And as soon as I'm done with the movie, I'll come back.

I was single at the time, spent a 20 to 24 weeks a year in Japan, had a great hookup in Japan, being single with my friends and all the stuff that was going on there, you know?

And so I went to Japan, and the movie came out, and all of a sudden, this guy Vern Gagne from Minnesota called me wanting me to come in there.

So that was the place everybody wanted to go.

He pays you better than any of the promoters and I just stumbled in right behind this guy the crusher He was like the Hulk Hogan of the Twin Cities and that whole st Paul across Wisconsin area with Brock Lesnar and Brad Riggins all those guys live so crusher was walking out I was walking in I wouldn't let anybody see my face.

My arms were legitimately Legitimately 24 back then and I throw my arms up.

If you guys want to see my face you gotta buy a ticket I was trying to be a bad guy and I do all my interviews with the back to the camera.

And they wanted me to wrestle Jesse Ventura.

And Jesse Ventura's the 1 that actually turned me baby face.

As soon as I walked up, they booed the piss out of him and cheered me.

So I had that little run in Minnesota for 3 years.

You know, Verne Giney was going to buy TV time on Channel 9 and all up and down the East Coast.

Came back and said, hey brother, you know, I want you to come back to New York.

He came to my house in Minnesota at 5 in the morning, we shook hands, and we did that whole worldwide takeover.


Speaker 0: The Joe Rogan Experience Well I gotta give it to Sloan. He took all the hits and all the bumps and...

Speaker 1: Oh he was an animal.

Speaker 0: Yeah I kind of messed his collarbone up, you know, by accident. But, you know, he was amazing. I mean I remember when I was going to go do that film, Vince McMahon Sr. Fired me because of that, because of that movie. What?

Well, I'd got the call.

Speaker 1: I didn't know there was a senior.

Speaker 0: Oh yeah, Vince Sr., that's who I started working for, brother, yeah, Vince McMahon Sr.

Speaker 1: So it's not the Vince McMahon that's an old

Speaker 0: guy now. No, no. His dad was a star. When I first went to New York in 78, Vince McMahon Sr. Had a couple of Phil Zakkos and a couple of partners.

And Vinny Jr. Had 1 building, I think, in Cape Cod, and Vince would come in once every 3 weeks, he'd hold a stick like Mean Gene. So when I first started there were 70, however long I lasted until probably mid-80s, and I told Vince Sr. I got this crazy call to come out and do a Stallone movie. First I was in the dressing room and Girl of Monsoon gave me the note.

I went, yeah, right, I threw it away because Stallone was like 150 feet tall in the public's eyes and I saw Rocky 1 and Rocky 2. I was like, oh my God. So I said, yeah, another wrestling joke, you know, like pooping in my bag or putting lots of stuff, you know. So I split to Japan for like 8 weeks and when I came back again to TV again in Allentown, they handed me a Western Union letter, this time from Stallone. So I flew out there and talked with him and got in the ring with him and did a couple things.

If you want to hear about that, that's a little different.

Speaker 1: What did you do?

Speaker 0: Well, when I went out there, I just had my nose broke in Japan for like the second or third time. And when I went out there, I was so enamored and such a fan of his. He goes, let's see. They had a guy with 1 of those big cameras, old school cameras, you know, when I came in, so I knew I was on camera, you know, sorry. At least I knew that much back then.

And so he goes, hey, let's just get in the ring and move around. I had jeans on and cowboy boots. He goes, oh, I was just getting in the ring like this. So he goes, I'm gonna try to hit you.

Speaker 1: I said, well, if you want to, you can hit me in

Speaker 0: the nose. Cause I saw the camera. I thought it'd be cool if he splattered my nose. That's how crazy I was.

Speaker 1: This is right after nose surgery?

Speaker 0: No, I didn't have no surgery. It was right after I had my nose broken in Japan. Oh, you just had

Speaker 1: it broken again.

Speaker 0: Yeah, I flew back to TV.

Speaker 1: I'm just assuming you had it fixed.

Speaker 0: No, no. No, Andre would fix everything for you. He'd just stand behind you with a sumps and push everything down. But so I got in the ring, he goes, try to hit me, you know? And so, when he went to hit me, I just grabbed him.

I said, I don't want to hit you. He goes, well, hit me. Give me everything you have. I went, I said, no, brother. You don't want that.

I said, there's a certain place I can hit you harder than others. But if I hit you as hard as I can, it's not going to be cool. He goes, well, give me 50%. I went, I really don't want to. I said I could.

What is going on with Sebastian? No, no, no, no, no. He was, because they were filming this whole thing.

Speaker 1: Right, right.

Speaker 0: So I said, well, you try to hit me, I'll grab you, I'll bend you over and I'll hammer you between the shoulders. And I hit him, I probably gave him 50%. And as soon as I made contact, his face hit my cowboy boots. He came up and his lip was bleeding. So that's perfect, that's perfect.

And so he was all excited, you know, just because I hit him.

Speaker 1: What a psycho.

Speaker 0: Yeah, and then we got out of the ring and he goes, you're a fake wrestler. You know, boxers can kick a wrestler's ass anytime. Get mad. So he wanted me to do an interview, right? So I did, let me tell you something, you know, that whole stick.

So he goes, I want you for the film. And I've never had an agent. I've never been in a movie. I don't know anything. He goes, I'll give you $10,000 to do the film.

Me being the negotiation genius that I am, I'm like, I want 15. I want 15 grand. So he gave me $14,000 and I signed whatever

Speaker 1: they got he bargained with you.

Speaker 0: Yeah. Wow. Yes I saw

Speaker 1: the fuck's lie

Speaker 0: You're stealing. Yes. I signed whatever he wanted back in the day. That was it. But

Speaker 1: how rude

Speaker 0: Yeah, but

Speaker 1: no even given the 50 that's some but negotiation bullshit right there

Speaker 0: But to go backwards I had called Vince McMahon senior that night from Fall River, Massachusetts Because I was wrestling at a high school in Fall River, Massachusetts And I called Vince because he was my guy We were We were really good friends on top of him helping me, giving me the break, Vince Sr. I call him in Fort Lauderdale and I said, brother, I'm leaving tomorrow to go to LA to do this film. He goes, no, you're not. He goes, it's midnight now. You have to be in Charlotte at noon for TV with Crockett because that's where Flair and all those guys where he was sending me down to that southern swing wrestling thing I Said no, I told you I'm not gonna do that.

You know, I said I'm gonna go do this movie And as soon as I'm done with the movie, I'll come back. He goes don't come back. You're never gonna work here again. Never. So I went, okay.

I was single at the time, spent a 20 to 24 weeks a year in Japan, had a great hookup in Japan, being single with my friends and all the stuff that was going on there, you know? And so I went to Japan, and the movie came out, and all of a sudden, this guy Vern Gagne from Minnesota called me wanting me to come in there. So that was the place everybody wanted to go. Wrestling the AWA for Vern Gagne. I don't know if you've heard of it.

Speaker 1: Of course, yeah.

Speaker 0: 4 days a week. He pays you better than any of the promoters and I just stumbled in right behind this guy the crusher He was like the Hulk Hogan of the Twin Cities and that whole st Paul across Wisconsin area with Brock Lesnar and Brad Riggins all those guys live so crusher was walking out I was walking in I wouldn't let anybody see my face. My arms were legitimately Legitimately 24 back then and I throw my arms up. If you guys want to see my face you gotta buy a ticket I was trying to be a bad guy and I do all my interviews with the back to the camera. My back was this wide back then.

And they wanted me to wrestle Jesse Ventura. And Jesse Ventura's the 1 that actually turned me baby face. As soon as I walked up, they booed the piss out of him and cheered me. So I had that little run in Minnesota for 3 years. Then we were coming into New York.

You know, Verne Giney was going to buy TV time on Channel 9 and all up and down the East Coast. That's when Vince Jr. Came back and said, hey brother, you know, I want you to come back to New York. And we had a talk. He came to my house in Minnesota at 5 in the morning, we shook hands, and we did that whole worldwide takeover.

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