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And today we have a very special guest of course.

So I mean, we have many things to talk about, but since we have a time limit for this recording, I should give Stelios the honor to have the first question.

So Stelios, probably something with sex and degeneracy.

Yeah, so as I said, even before the recording, I'm very grateful to be in this situation to talk with Dr.

Jones and Eudine and I want to say to Dr.

Jones that I've known him since his interviews with Roush.

And the main thing I have to say about Dr.

And as I went to read most of the pages of Libido Dominante by Dr.

Jones but even from the first pages it got into me how the enlightenment affected the culture that we live today.

So my very first question is if you can deepen on this subject for our Greek viewers also to get a chance to know your work.

Yeah, well, the Libido Dominandi is a book about sexual liberation and political control, and it began with the Enlightenment.

1 was Adam Weishaupt, who was the founder of a group called the Illuminati.

During the 1776, I believe, the king of Bavaria discovered this secret society.

It was run by a man who was a professor at the University of Ingolstadt.

And it was a secret society that was an imitation of the Freemasons, but it was going to be more powerful than the Freemasons, because it had a particular way of organizing the people.

And that was based on Jesuit spirituality.

The Jesuits had been expelled from, had been suppressed, the whole order had been suppressed by the Pope at the behest of the Duke de Choiseul in France.

But the principles that they articulated were still around.

And 1 of the main ideas they had was the idea of examination of conscience, which was basically, before you go over your life, the sins you've committed in preparation for going to confession.

And oftentimes you would have assistance of this with your spiritual advisor.

It was sometimes called the chapter of faults where you'd sit down and you talk about your faults in public or in private one-on-one with your spiritual advisor.

Now this was preparation for going to confession and during confession the priest would absolve you from your sins and say go and sin no more.

So the whole point of this is to understand your faults and then to overcome them.

Well, Weishaupt understood that you could be a revolutionary here and revolutionaries turn everything upside down.

So instead, so he still went through the motions of the examination of conscience, but this time it was to discover the faults so that he could use those faults not to get the person to confess but control the person.

So because what we're talking about is the slavery of sin, what St.

He said, a man has as many masters as he has vices.

And of course, He said that with the idea of, well, you wanna be free of your vices, but there were other people, and we call them revolutionaries, who said, no, no, we can use this, we can turn this upside down.

So if I discover your vices, I can control you through the manipulation of your vices, through the manipulation of your passion.

And Weishaupt called this process Seelenanaloosa.

And then after the Illuminati documents were discovered and made public.

They were made public primarily through a book by Abbe Baroel called the Memoirs for the History of Jacobinism.

This book became an underground bestseller throughout Europe during the 19th century.

And 1 of the people who read it was Sigmund Freud.

And Sigmund Freud basically based psychoanalysis on Adam Weishaupt's perversion of the Jesuit examination of conscience.

So instead of calling it Seelenanalyse, which is the German term, an analysis of the soul, Freud took it back to Greek and he called it Psychoanalysis, or psychoanalysis, which is what it became.

Right, psychoanalysis is what is the word that we use today.

So that became a way of controlling people on an individual basis.

His heir apparent, it was a Jewish operation, psychoanalysis, a completely Jewish operation, except for 1 man, and that was C.G.

And Freud saw him as his heir apparent and the man who was going to, he would be like the Saint Paul of psychoanalysis.

He was going to introduce it to the Gentile world.

Well, they got into a competition and they had a break and there's all sorts of conventional explanation for the break.

But I think the real reason is because they were both going after the same rich Americans.

The rich Americans would come burdened with the guilt of their sins.

Madol McCormick was 1 of them and He ended up showing up with, ended up with C.G.

He said, I'm having affairs, I feel guilty.

And Jung said, that's okay, I can absolve you.

You can go on having affairs, but keep paying me money.

Jones, Sorry to interrupt, but it's like you read through my quotes here.

And I've made a quote from the book that it's exactly what you just said.

It's like the best way to control a man is to do so without his awareness, that He's being controlled.

And you mentioned the word consciousness.

So do you think that today we have consciousness as people, not only Americans, but like the West as a culture and the people of the West have conscience and or do we buy conscience?

Just like you said now, can we buy conscience and forgiveness?

Conscience, now did you say conscience or consciousness?

Yeah, Well, your conscience is your internalization of the moral law.

Your conscience is your understanding of the moral law.

And when you do something wrong, your conscience bothers you.

So the question is, how do you deal with conscience?

And psychoanalysis became a parody of the confession.

Because the confessional is basically you admit something to someone else and There's a sacrament involved there, which means some type of divine intervention and grace.

But you can have similar effects if you just talk to someone.

Because the main thing about conscience is If you feel guilty, you don't want to tell anyone.

And party wants to talk and party wants to keep a secret.

So the classic example is I dealt with this in another book, my book on horror movies, which is also about sexual liberation.

It's called Monsters from the Id, and there's a passage in Dracula, the movie by Bram Stoker, where the main character, I forget what his name is at this point, but He goes to Hungary, he goes into the castle, Dracula's castle, has a night with 3 women, kind of hallucinatory night, writes it up in his diary, and then he gets sick and he's in the hospital in Budapest and his girlfriend, Minna Harker, it's Jonathan Harker, Minna Harker, Minna comes up to him, and he says, here is my diary, do not read it.

Well, this is contradictory, and this is precisely the contradictory nature of the guilty conscience.

In other words, I wanna tell you what's bothering me, but I don't want to tell you what's bothering me.

And the classic example of this in American literature is the Scarlet Letter.

It's Reverend Dimmesdale on the Scarlet Letter, who stands up.

Hester Prynne has been accused of adultery.

Well, Dimmesdale stands up on the scaffold in the middle of the night and he rips open his chest, his shirt, but there's no 1 there to see him.

So it's a deliberately ambiguous gesture.

And this is the classic type of ambiguous gesture that you get with psychoanalysis.

In other words, you can feel better simply by telling anybody, you know, like getting into a cab and telling the cab driver that you did something, you'll feel better because you told somebody, but you better be careful about who you tell it to because they will use it against you.

And so what you have here are basically psychoanalysis was that kind of trap.

It was a trap that basically where Sigma, I told you about Jung trying to get the rich Americans.

He got the Rockefeller McCormick family, but then he beat out Sigma Freud because I think they prefer to go to a Gentile and not to a Jew, okay?

But there was a man, an American doctor by the name of Horace Frink, who wanted to become a psychoanalyst, he was a medical doctor.

But to do that, you had to be in psychoanalysis with Dr.

So we had to go to Vienna, he had to lie down on the couch.

Well, I committed adultery and he feels guilty about it.

And so Freud, once again, is in the position of the father confessor, but instead of saying, well, that's bad, you shouldn't do that.

And on top of that, you're sleeping with 1 of your patients, which violates medical ethics as well.

He said, basically, divorce your wife, marry this rich woman, and then give me a big contribution.

And that's all the way up to the end in the 20th century with psychoanalysis.

So to summarize that, you're saying that psychoanalysis contributed to the destruction of ethics, basically.

And I think Freud, as a Jew, was consciously subversive in that regard.

He had a hatred for Rome, a particular hatred for Rome, and he identified with Hannibal in some type of weird way.

And Hannibal was going to conquer Rome, and that's what Sigmund Freud felt that he was going to do.

He's going to conquer the Roman Catholic Church because that was the main spiritual power and the main political power in Vienna during the latter part of the 19th century.

So as Stelios said and you said now, I see a pattern.

So it was Freud that took a book basically.

So took a philosophy and ideology from a book that was a bestseller underground, like you said.

And then, in a way, it seems to me like Stelios said that it, it made it commercial.

And it boggles my mind, because I never had thought this before that way, that psychoanalysis is basically commercialized confession.

And I want to ask you, was Freud deliberately trying to lead his people, lead his patients into immorality, or was he trying to please them?

Because, you know, it was commercial, it was clients, you know.

Yeah, he had a friend in Berlin, a man by the name of Fleece, who thought that every, all problems were related to the nose.

He was a quack, we would call him a quack in America.

But he, Fleece invited him to come to Berlin And Freud responded by saying, I'd love to come, but I'm afraid my patients will get well in my absence.

He had Another, he had a cartoon on his wall.

And underneath it, it said, it's already noon and I haven't eaten any Negroes yet.

So I think what he's saying is that he's the lion and the patients are the Negroes.

And he had this kind of exploitative relationship with his patients.

In other words, he was there to make money, but it was bigger than that because Freud was a Jew.

And he had this residual animosity against Christian culture.

And this fit in well with the whole, the other book I wrote called the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit.

If there were, there was a time when this spirit was really important in late 19th century, you had people like Trotsky, This is right around the time Trotsky and the Bolsheviks and Lenin are getting together.

You have World War I, when the whole, basically the whole fabric of Christian Europe falls apart.

And all of these people, all of these Jewish revolutionaries see their moment, and Freud was 1 of them.

It's just that he had a different type of battle.

The man who brought these 2 forms of Jewish revolutionary spirit together, in other words, the psychoanalysis and Bolshevism, was Wilhelm Reich.

And Wilhelm Reich was a student of Freud.

He was also a communist and he was active in Vienna during the 1930s.

And he was the 1, it's the book he wrote in 1933 is called the Mass Psychology of Fascism.

And he is the 1 who took the idea and weaponized it.

In other words, how can you create a political program?

In other words, he was obviously interested, he's a member of the Communist Party, he's also a psychoanalyst.

How do you bring these 2 things together?

And he did it by, you could do it by corrupting the morals of the clergy, of the Catholic clergy.

Don't debate the existence of God with a seminarian.

What you do is you corrupt the morals, get them involved in sexual activity, and then Reich said, the idea of God just evaporates from his mind.

Well, that was the program during the 20th century all over Europe and the United States.

I've documented this time and time again, okay?

In my latest book, Logos Rising, I talked about the Jews who arrived in Germany after Germany was defeated after World War II.

David Mardukai Levy is a Jewish psychiatrist from New York City who showed up as part of the conquering army that was engaged in imposing psychological warfare on the defeated German people.

And he was the 1 who you had to go to if you wanted to publish a magazine, you wanted to get a book published, you want to have a movie, anything had to go through, you had to get a license from David Mordecai Levy.

And when you went to David Mordecai Levy, you had to write an essay.

You had to do a kind of version of psychoanalysis.

You had to proclaim your guilt as a German, and then you had to go along with what he said.

So, this is a direct line of influence here, from the Illuminati to Freud to Reich to David Mordecai.

Nobody knows what happened in Germany during the 1950s, where they had a direct assault on the sexual morality of the German people.

They had an organization called the Volkswachtbund, the People's Defense League.

And their motto was they were against schmutz und schund.

I mean, talk German today, you say that to a German today, he'll be embarrassed.

Germans are embarrassed because they like to talk about science.

And of course, America sent a man over to talk about science and sex, and that was Alfred Kinsey.

So Alfred Kinsey then became the man who basically shamed the Germans out of their sexual morality because by telling them that it wasn't scientific.

So again, you have another assault on the sexual morality.

And When you give up your sexual morality, they take control and that's why Germany is the most politically correct country in the world because it's ruled by Jews who undermine their sexual morality.

I'm just really impressed by everything that Dr.

Jones, if you have seen the series on Netflix about Freud.

So I heard you talking about it and I'm like confused because what you talked about happening in Germany in the 50s, it's like what we see today.

And today our doctor that you talked about and his great influence, today that can be said that it's Netflix and the media.

So everything that gets approval to be broadcasted in YouTube, in Netflix, etc.

Affects mass society and affects the beliefs of the world, just like in the past.

So it's clear that we have a connection and history repeats itself again.

Right, we're talking about a continuum that is the real history of what happened during this period and it's all been disguised.

Now, Freud himself burned his manuscripts not once but twice.

Freud never wanted anyone to know what the real source of his material was.

So the whole Oedipus complex, it's all in Egypt.

All you have to do is read the birth of tragedy and you realize that this is where he got the idea.

But Freud didn't want anyone to know that.

The same thing is true of the Illuminati manuscripts.

So obviously you're faced with a bad history, bad education, because everybody who has considered themselves an educated person knows who Sigmund Freud is but nobody knows the real story of Sigmund Freud.

It's to give you a false narrative to make you confused and you're supposed to think that Freud was some type of scientist And you're supposed to think that Freud was some type of scientist, and you're supposed to think that sexual morality is the opposite of science, it has no basis in reality, and that's the way they lead you into the trap.

And I'm not, when I say you, I'm talking about entire countries.

And the classic example was Germany and the United States.

These are countries, more so Germany, because they had the ability to inflict ruthless social engineering on Germany because it was a conquered nation.

The first plan for Germany was created by a Jew called Morgenthau, who was Franklin Roosevelt's Secretary of State, and that plan was to starve the Germans to death.

And at that point, the adults in the room, the WASP ruling class, symbolized by George Marshall, said, no, no, we need the Germans.

And so in Harvard, in 1947, he shows up at Harvard, he announces the Marshall Plan, which is the opposite of the Morgenthau Plan.

In other words, we're going to give the Germans money, they're good people, and we need them as a bulwark against communism.

Well, they built them up financially, but they tore them down morally.

Because they can be controlled more easily.

That's right, because we need those Germans to make those Mercedes and BMWs.

And for me, for us in America, it was the Volkswagen, which everybody bought 1 in 19, in the 1960s, they were the cheapest car available because Germans were great workers.

So we need them as productive workers, but we need to control them as well.

So this is how you get the best of both worlds.

This is how you get to have your cake and eat it too.

When I went to Germany, I was 6 years in Munich.

So I lived there and it astonished me that Germans were very productive, like you said.

So they were very industrialized, You know, BMWs all over around, organized.

No, it was a political, you know, a shock for me, for a Greek.

But something that was a bigger shock that I couldn't expect was the demoralization, you know, the degeneracy that I found there.

Okay, so you went into the English Garden.

And there you see all of the Germans lying naked in the English garden in the middle of Munich.

And not only that, I was adolescent then, back then, so I was with my brother.

German girls were much more, I don't know how to express this, much more easily available for sexual activity than Greek girls.

The contrast was so profound that I couldn't believe it because it was from another, from 1 side you have a very industrialized community, very organized and Munich was kind of traditional.

So it wasn't like Berlin, it was kind of traditional.

Munich is Catholic and Berlin is Protestant.

The Frauenkirche and all the churches there, it's beautiful.

Museums, everything, parks, really beautiful.

But the degeneracy, yeah, now makes sense.

These Germans are the ideal world citizens because they're wage slaves and they're sexual robots.

And that's the type of person that the oligarchs want us all to be.

Wage slaves, you work hard and you're sexually liberated, so you're easy to control and you're not going to get uppity.

So what this is the, like Foucault was the guy who did the deal, but I mean, basically the deal, what is the deal now?

The new deal of the left, you give us sexual liberation, we won't ask for a raise, we won't complain about your economic system.

That's the deal, Foucault did it, and that's the world that we live in, That's the world the oligarchs want to impose on the entire world now, the entire world.

And I don't know if Tim wants to add something?

No, I can add a lot of things and ask, but go ahead, yes go ahead.

But I mean, just 1 other thing, just to add on what you say, in 1975, I went to Berlin and I was living with Palestinians.

And they went crazy, because if you think you were in a state of shock, just think what Muslims felt like going to Berlin.

They were just, they went crazy because you're not allowed to drink and they live, they come from a very traditional puritanical society.

You know, the women wear head scarves, they wear the hijab, you know, and they come to Berlin and they go crazy.

They go absolutely crazy, you know, and they were angry.

So I had to take the brunt of their anger because I was an American and I was responsible for this whole mess that they were in.

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