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2 minutes 14 seconds

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Steve Friederang

00:04

But what I'm saying is you get to have people thinking about winning every day and they're really fast already. So you don't have to worry about the other 300, 000 swimmers or other 40, 000 programs or whatever out there that you could win every day of your life and every meet you go and you suck because you haven't paid attention to times. So I'll get age groupers that come here and they think they're really good because they swim in Kansas. You know, buddy, you met buddy, I think he flies in to see me and he's really good in Kansas.

SF

Steve Friederang

00:33

But when, you know, if he comes to some place where Indiana, if he goes to Indiana, he used to say California, if he goes to Indiana and he swims, you know, he's third or fourth or fifth, because he doesn't realize he hasn't been paying enough attention at a time. So you got to have both, don't you?

MS

Mark Schubert

00:47

Yeah, I think you're right.

SF

Steve Friederang

00:48

And when you're first, you have to find some other way. I think what you would do with somebody that's 13 and fast is maybe have them go up against your 17 year olds that in workouts.

MS

Mark Schubert

00:58

Absolutely. You know, compete, compete, compete.

SF

Steve Friederang

01:02

How particular are you about, how particular should people be about moving up their age group or their fast? I think Sweden calls them the fast track age groupers about moving them into a place where they're getting competition when they're ready, when they're ready mentally and intellectually for it. And aren't going to be negatively impacted by getting beat by a 17 year old when they're 14.

SF

Steve Friederang

01:27

Do you wait until puberty or are there times when you just move?

MS

Mark Schubert

01:31

Well, you just said it's mentally. Some kids need to be left with their age group because they're swimming socially, especially young kids that aren't that mature. But If you got a good kid that can handle it, move them up.

SF

Steve Friederang

01:50

Okay, that answers that. And to your point, they're trying to win every day in practice. Times are a little less relevant.

SF

Steve Friederang

01:56

They're still relevant, but they're less relevant than winning and trying to win every day. Okay. Now I'm talking to...