Taken from JRE #1946 - Protect Our Parks 7:
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I don't know anything, but I've been watching, dude, on the plane I was watching the fucking, I've been watching the Ken Burns Vietnam.

God damn, dude, I cried on the plane like a fucking idiot.

I can remember when the Vietnam War ended

Little kid I was living in San Francisco, and I remember thinking thank God.

yeah Boy, they glad they figured this out.

It was so years dude from day 1 They were like we're not gonna win.

that mayor is in there with LBJ like this isn't going this is never gonna work

I mean why this Had to be a part of what was going

on drinking on the plane And I like so while watching this I like a drunk texted my uncle who got wounded in Vietnam.

It's like a crazy text to send oh my god Then he explained how he got hurt, and it was like whoa

he was a He was a forward observer for his group.

It was the Battle of Fuck I'll find it, but it was 200 US soldiers surrounded by about 3,000 Vietcong, or RVN, and then he was the forward observer that was calling in coordinates.

But he was the 1 up front calling in the gunships, calling in the artillery.

What's crazy is the Vietnamese don't even hate Americans?

No they hit the Chinese way more Oh, it's all past them

they called the American War and not they

it was The Battle of Hill 102 aka the Battle of Khe Sanh Valley 65 Americans killed 200 Americans surrounded by 2000, but then I was a little buzzed.

He said what happens is you enter a zone where you just shut down your emotions and focus on what you need to do to Survive and protect your men no time to process feelings There's enormous chaos, but you were acutely aware of everything at least that was my experience This is a wild response.

Yeah At 1 point there were waves of MVA running towards us But my sole focus was to stop them from getting too close with a gunship known as spooky I mowed them down as they advanced without the relentless stream of fire from spooky we would have been overrun

gunship sank fired to this area and I fucking light I was

talking he said I was the forward observer so my job was to keep artillery jet strikes and gunship fire raining down on the enemy.

That's why they were trying to get through me and take me out, which they eventually did, but I took a lot of them out first.

I was like, drinking, watching the documentary on my phone, like, damn.

I'll tell you, my other uncle was in Vietnam and was like, It's the gunship.

other uncle was in Vietnam and he never talks about it.

they down spooky look at that ouch 1968 February 15th 9 killed in downing of spooky gunship

yeah, golf of Tonkin they lied about an incident to try to get us into the war yeah It's fucking crate.

That's like what we're talking about before with false.

did yeah, they 100% would but lesser-known fact to Jim Morrison's father, Captain George Stephan Morrison commanded the carrier division during the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

The Gulf of Tonkin incident famously gave the Johnson administration the justification they needed to escalate the Vietnam War

Imagine that and your dad becomes break on through to the other side.

I know that's why he went so counterculture

son rather becomes that They're playing in the fucking

so what did your what your uncle do to like what was it like when he came back

I think he came back and he had a very stressful job what'd he do fuck it oh it's pretty once I tell you what he did it's specific he

Fucking for scump dude he was in 3 Mile Island.

he's an incredible story, but I think I was reading an article about it because he's pretty popular and he was He was describing how his job was very Stressful because he worked in like Wall Street, and he thought he was like blaming all his stress on Wall Street And then it was like clearly it was you got hit with a fucking RPG

And you mowed people down yeah, and then he went back to Vietnam and saw it and was like oh This is all all of my problems right?

Yeah, magic getting out and going back What a nightmare

think he said he was he felt bad cuz he got wounded Pretty severely like his calf got blown off.

He got But he was like I was too reckless and now I'm not with my men and he held that against himself

He was like I was too reckless I fucked that up now I'm not with my men because I was like holding that against himself and then he saw what happened and where he was He was like oh Of course I got wounded.


Speaker 0: The Jorogun experience.

Speaker 1: I don't know anything, but I've been watching, dude, on the plane I was watching the fucking, I've been watching the Ken Burns Vietnam.

Speaker 2: Heavy stuff.

Speaker 1: God damn, dude, I cried on the plane like a fucking idiot.

Speaker 2: Oh, is that why you cried?

Speaker 1: Watching a PBS doc.

Speaker 0: You're out of meatballs.

Speaker 1: Mark, if you're gonna say nasty stuff. I'm sorry. That was pretty funny.

Speaker 2: That was a nice ride, though.

Speaker 0: I can remember when the Vietnam War ended

Speaker 1: Little kid I was living in San Francisco, and I remember thinking thank God. We're never gonna do war again

Speaker 0: Thank God. It's over while I'm a child. I remember thinking that

Speaker 1: yeah Boy, they glad they figured this out.

Speaker 2: It was long.

Speaker 1: It was so years dude from day 1 They were like we're not gonna win. Yeah from day 1

Speaker 3: They're just how to be

Speaker 1: that mayor is in there with LBJ like this isn't going this is never gonna work

Speaker 2: Yeah,

Speaker 1: they just kept doing it

Speaker 2: a lot of heroin out there.

Speaker 0: Oh my god. I mean why this Had to be a part of what was going

Speaker 1: on drinking on the plane And I like so while watching this I like a drunk texted my uncle who got wounded in Vietnam. I was like where'd you get hurt? It's like a crazy text to send oh my god Then he explained how he got hurt, and it was like whoa

Speaker 3: I went to the how did he get hurt? And all

Speaker 1: he was a He was a forward observer for his group. It was the Battle of Fuck I'll find it, but it was 200 US soldiers surrounded by about 3,000 Vietcong, or RVN, and then he was the forward observer that was calling in coordinates. So they were all trying to get him. They got him. They hit him with an RPG eventually.

But he was the 1 up front calling in the gunships, calling in the artillery.

Speaker 3: Where to

Speaker 1: go? Rocketpropellant grenade. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2: Thank you.

Speaker 3: See it all. Yeah. Wow, like a

Speaker 1: spotter and crew.

Speaker 2: There he is.

Speaker 3: The sun, right? I'm just asking.

Speaker 2: That's a Gillis.

Speaker 0: Drang Valley incident, 1965.

Speaker 2: Google Gillis Vietnam.

Speaker 1: No, his last name's not Gillis. What's crazy is the Vietnamese don't even hate Americans?

Speaker 3: No they hit the Chinese way more Oh, it's all past them

Speaker 2: who doesn't

Speaker 3: they called the American War and not they

Speaker 1: it was The Battle of Hill 102 aka the Battle of Khe Sanh Valley 65 Americans killed 200 Americans surrounded by 2000, but then I was a little buzzed. I'm asking him fucked up questions. What's it like?

Speaker 3: What's it like a broadest?

Speaker 1: He said what happens is you enter a zone where you just shut down your emotions and focus on what you need to do to Survive and protect your men no time to process feelings There's enormous chaos, but you were acutely aware of everything at least that was my experience This is a wild response. Yeah At 1 point there were waves of MVA running towards us But my sole focus was to stop them from getting too close with a gunship known as spooky I mowed them down as they advanced without the relentless stream of fire from spooky we would have been overrun

Speaker 2: thank God for spooking

Speaker 1: damn Wow

Speaker 3: gunship sank fired to this area and I fucking light I was

Speaker 1: talking he said I was the forward observer so my job was to keep artillery jet strikes and gunship fire raining down on the enemy.

Speaker 2: Does he want you reading this on air?

Speaker 1: It'll be alright. That's why they were trying to get through me and take me out, which they eventually did, but I took a lot of them out first. I was like, drinking, watching the documentary on my phone, like, damn.

Speaker 3: I think just smoking

Speaker 0: a joint with that guy on a porch. Woo.

Speaker 2: Just starts quiet.

Speaker 1: I'll tell you, my other uncle was in Vietnam and was like, It's the gunship.

Speaker 2: There it is. Spooky. Yeah. Wow. My

Speaker 1: other uncle was

Speaker 2: in Vietnam and was like My

Speaker 1: other uncle was in Vietnam and he never talks about it. Yeah that guy hope if you ask you he's

Speaker 0: they down spooky look at that ouch 1968 February 15th 9 killed in downing of spooky gunship

Speaker 2: to the spook to spooky

Speaker 3: spooky

Speaker 2: Hey, well at least yeah, it's like

Speaker 1: what a fucked-up war that

Speaker 2: was the gore's dad was a nom

Speaker 1: terrible fucking dumb war

Speaker 2: Silly waste of time

Speaker 0: not only a dumb war but

Speaker 1: a dumb war that was up that came about

Speaker 0: because of a false flag

Speaker 1: Tonkin

Speaker 0: yeah, golf of Tonkin they lied about an incident to try to get us into the war yeah It's fucking crate. That's like what we're talking about before with false.

Speaker 3: I'll tell you when they

Speaker 1: really happen They did

Speaker 0: they used to do them all the time. What'd you say?

Speaker 3: Yeah, they

Speaker 0: did yeah, they 100% would but lesser-known fact to Jim Morrison's father, Captain George Stephan Morrison commanded the carrier division during the Gulf of Tonkin incident. The Gulf of Tonkin incident famously gave the Johnson administration the justification they needed to escalate the Vietnam War

Speaker 2: JRR Tonkin

Speaker 0: Imagine that and your dad becomes break on through to the other side.

Speaker 2: I know that's why he went so counterculture

Speaker 1: son rather becomes that They're playing in the fucking

Speaker 0: so what did your what your uncle do to like what was it like when he came back

Speaker 1: I think he came back and he had a very stressful job what'd he do fuck it oh it's pretty once I tell you what he did it's specific he

Speaker 3: was like

Speaker 1: Fucking for scump dude he was in 3 Mile Island. He was at the World Trade Center. He was in

Speaker 0: It was everyone

Speaker 1: he's an incredible story, but I think I was reading an article about it because he's pretty popular and he was He was describing how his job was very Stressful because he worked in like Wall Street, and he thought he was like blaming all his stress on Wall Street And then it was like clearly it was you got hit with a fucking RPG

Speaker 2: almost died yikes

Speaker 1: And you mowed people down yeah, and then he went back to Vietnam and saw it and was like oh This is all all of my problems right? He went back

Speaker 2: what went

Speaker 1: to exactly where he was

Speaker 2: Yeah, magic getting out and going back What a nightmare

Speaker 1: think he said he was he felt bad cuz he got wounded Pretty severely like his calf got blown off. He's missing a nipple.

Speaker 3: He's what

Speaker 1: he got drilled.

Speaker 3: He's miss Pat.

Speaker 1: He got But he was like I was too reckless and now I'm not with my men and he held that against himself

Speaker 2: Was he a drug addict and whatnot?

Speaker 1: For sure

Speaker 3: Wow too reckless

Speaker 1: He was like I was too reckless I fucked that up now I'm not with my men because I was like holding that against himself and then he saw what happened and where he was He was like oh Of course I got wounded.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it

Speaker 1: was they were coming at

Speaker 3: me people shooting at me

Speaker 1: Yeah, they knew I was the guy calling in the airstrikes blew his calf off. Yeah, his legs. He's literally missing his fucking calf nipples

Speaker 0: off

Speaker 1: Super

Speaker 3: Bowl calf time Jesus Christ! Kevin, have that! Jesus Christ! He can't help himself!

Speaker 1: He's a pun machine! Calfway House! Super Bowl Calf Time!

Speaker 2: The Calf Time Show! We saw it! We were there on shrooms! Rihanna!

Speaker 1: Ironically, that's

Speaker 2: the name

Speaker 1: of the guy who shot him.

Speaker 2: Rihanna! I like

Speaker 1: it! I can do a little bit of you!

Speaker 2: Take it on! Go nuts!

Speaker 1: Rihanna I can do I could do a little video

Speaker 3: take it

Speaker 2: on yeah, I could try go nuts

Speaker 1: apparently I was like 1 of

Speaker 0: the most amazing places to visit.

Speaker 3: I loved it.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah

Speaker 0: Where you there? Where'd you go?

Speaker 3: I went to start in Saigon Ho Chi Minh Ho Chi Minh That's what they call it, And then I went to the south to like some tiny town.

Speaker 2: Get

Speaker 3: away from like backpackers. I was getting sick of everybody.

Speaker 1: You get sick of all the fucking tourists.

Speaker 3: Whites, yeah. Really? District 1 of Ho Chi Minh is like it's like TGI Friday. It's whatever yeah, they have the war remnants museum It's the Vietnam War Memorial Museum, and they have a GI outside. It's all propaganda in there Whoa about the senators who later came out and said said like oh, yeah, I killed like 50 innocent people

Speaker 2: once bucket

Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that? There was 1 senator that he was there was

Speaker 0: you know they were applauding him as a war hero And then finally he just like said I have to come clean.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I got some shit He's like I read a bunch of people killed a bunch of it Oh, We just went down to mode out and he was like running on the fact that he's a hero

Speaker 0: Yeah, when Jamie comes back That

Speaker 1: can't burns that can burns Vietnam though is fucking wild Tried to watch it the first time I've watched like it was it is dense. Yeah, then once you get into it. It's like goddamn.

Speaker 2: What is it 12 hours?

Speaker 1: So fucking

Speaker 3: great for

Speaker 1: flights. Yeah, and the pandemic

Speaker 3: yeah the Bobby sandwich there is amazing

Speaker 2: Yeah, how

Speaker 3: fresh bread they got that from the French? What's it called the bomb me bomb me?

Speaker 1: Like

Speaker 3: What I remember is that it was just, every day was a war.

Speaker 2: What about the pho over there? Pretty good pho?

Speaker 3: Pho's not bad, I was really into the bon me's. Alright. You just get them to go. They're so good, so fresh. It's a fresh bread.

They love it

Speaker 2: French bread. Yeah, so we po boys on The French is without the bread. It's not a poor boy.

Speaker 3: Yeah, so I loved 1 of those things of like somebody at some college campus was like bitching at their student Union for doing the Doing the banh mi sandwich not the authentic way. Yeah, like some sort of Tabasco on it or something sort of like sriracha

Speaker 2: yeah,

Speaker 3: he's like that's not authentic Vietnamese. Everyone's like it's French bread It's from the colonization

Speaker 2: Did you guys ever do the stand-up bong hit you know so a paper towel roll? You're on the on the wall, and you're both squatting Well, he takes a giant vaporizer hit or whatever and he blows it into your mouth while you stand up No, then you fall back down immediately no you never did that

Speaker 3: no Beer ball

Speaker 2: no no weed huge hit And then as you come up and it hits you so hard As you're standing up so the the oxygen goes away,

Speaker 3: which is this

Speaker 2: is pre-internet. You know 4 guys in a house

Speaker 1: Figuring shit

Speaker 2: out figuring it out Nothing to do

Speaker 1: if I blow the smoke in your face.

Speaker 2: Yeah, then

Speaker 1: you stand up That was 1 of

Speaker 0: the things they did during Nam. They do it to rifles. Yeah

Speaker 1: It's cool

Speaker 2: that can end well yeah, no yeah Yikes

Speaker 0: shot Imagine being high as fuck and also in Vietnam in the middle of the war going what the fuck man Yeah, so they they did a shotgun where they literally opened up the barrel damn And then blowing the weed through I

Speaker 3: like how they're not touching it with their mouth because they don't want to get herpes They

Speaker 0: don't want to be gay. They don't be sucking on that gun in front of

Speaker 1: everybody whoa

Speaker 2: Gotta kill the day, but then what if I can be

Speaker 0: like super paranoid and high as fuck and you're in the jungle in Vietnam Yeah, now you realize you're walking stupid fucking war that makes no sense has 0 support behind it

Speaker 2: We'll make

Speaker 3: your walks are good.

Speaker 0: What are we doing? I'm shooting people with 0 support behind it.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you're out in nature You

Speaker 1: know yeah,

Speaker 3: that's what they said 1 of the reasons They won they took over all the reasons of Vietnam won they were like the Americans like I don't even want to be here.

Speaker 1: Well yeah no 1 did.

Speaker 3: Yeah like I don't care about these people. And the Vietnamese were fighting for their home.

Speaker 2: What about the ever meet 1 of those guys who's like you know when 9-11 happened they're like I'm going over there. Yeah. Thank God for guys like that.

Speaker 1: Yeah. Because I'm like

Speaker 2: oh thank you. Take care

Speaker 1: of it for us. I'm gonna stay here.

Speaker 0: But Pat Tillman. Pat Tillman. He Left being a fucking NFL star and he got killed by friendly fire

Speaker 2: He was that hero obviously he was just a hero a bummer of a guy like a man

Speaker 0: Some people say it was on purpose

Speaker 3: Started to see like oh, this is fucking pointless. What are we doing here even and then like oh, we got to shut him up. Keep him a hero.

Speaker 2: Oh no.

Speaker 3: Is a theory.

Speaker 1: Boy, I hope not.

Speaker 0: Yeah. God, you hope not. Yeesh.

Speaker 1: Anyway, let's talk about something funnier.

Speaker 2: The boobs?

Speaker 1: And then friendly fire. That's only

Speaker 0: in Vietnam. I know, right? What the fuck?

Speaker 3: That's kind of

Speaker 2: a nice term for what happens.

Speaker 0: You changed the mood of everything when you read out your uncle's text message.

Speaker 1: I know, yeah.

Speaker 3: That's pretty

Speaker 1: sick though. I mean imagine being on a plane reading that.

Speaker 0: The way he described it too was amazing too.

Speaker 1: Yeah. Your uncle's smart. Yeah, he's fired up.

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