Taken from JRE #1948 w/Tony Hichcliffe & Brian Redban:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7hsceYF0o0AFcmQKCTQ1e9?si=a1559d401e4343f9

Did you see the guy in East Palestine that talks like Mickey Mouse now?

I don't want to give anybody extra titles.

Sometimes the Mary Jane fucks with the mind.

With the voice thing, Wouldn't there be multiple videos of multiple people with that?

They don't say it's 45 minutes away from Pittsburgh or 45 minutes away from Cleveland They just call it East Palestine.

Oh, yeah, it's getting in everywhere, right?

Did you see the dead deer that they've been finding?

He was down by the river or this Creek or whatever it is It's just fucking completely polluted, you know, he's for rocks in it You see big oil slicks

bowl up and he found 3 dead deer like really close to each

There's East Palestine Towns right there, dude.

are those videos of it raining in Ohio where it was like foam.

Do you see that snow and all the stuff in the ground?

They literally have the lake effect there so the precipitation That's where it's always

Oh my god once it's sitting above you Yeah, is it does it dissipate?

What happens to the this the poison that gets into the

Like if it really hovers over you, like holy shit and comes down when it rains.

The video that, I don't know if it's real, it showed a man outside and when it was raining it just seemed like it was suds.

I don't know if it's a real video, it's TikTok, but...

Wouldn't you think that whatever the smoke is, like, whatever the particles are, they would be too heavy to just sit in the clouds?

Wouldn't you think that they would fall to the ground?

What would you, Jamie, you're smarter than us.

What do you think would happen if chemicals were burned and they went into the clouds?

I think back to the movies of like, the Dirty Waters just came out, where they're looking into Chemical companies and people getting fucked up and there's giant lawsuits that go on forever Aaron Brockovich thing I think was a similar situation people get fucked up from some chemical company.

No, I think it is I think but What I'm asking is do you think that when they burn the chemicals that they stay in the clouds, does that make any sense?

don't think they're going to tell us and explain it to us simple people.

Did you, and did you see that people were trying to blame Trump Because of deregulation, but it turns out that whatever deregulation he passed wouldn't have applied to this and also wasn't instituted It never really went through

that true make sure that's true What is the question Yes was D right was Was Trump-era deregulation responsible for the crash?

for the company, not the not even the train.

Remember, we looked up there's like 1700 a year.

So the deregulation was just basically like giving money to the corporations or Letting them pay less money.

I that's I don't know I'm just so like first thing says Washington Post analysis so far Trump's rollback of regulations can't be blamed for the train wreck

There you go, and that's Washington Post So if that's Washington Post see NTSB chair contradicts post that wrongly claimed Trump to blame for Ohio train wreck.

But that's like a thing that people do immediately.

Whenever there's something fucked up, they immediately point at Trump.

He did it But when the problem like that is like when you say he did it a lot of people here Oh, he did it and then how many people hear the follow-up?

How many people here like no he didn't do it And this is actually what happened.

Yeah, I've only 40% find out that it wasn't true.

It's from article says bootage gauge Calls on Trump to back reversing deregulation and wake of age of train derailment.

It's They're saying it comes from this letter

Let's let's read what he has to say like maybe both things could be true, right?

What could be true is that the deregulation is bad?

And what also could be true is that Trump wasn't responsible for this this particular crash both things could be true This is 1 thing he can do to express support for reversing the deregulation that happened on his watch.

I heard him say he had nothing to do with it, even though it was in his administration.

So if he had nothing to do with it and they did it in his administration against his will.

Maybe he can come out and say that he supports us moving in a different direction.

White House has blamed Republican lawmakers in the Trump administration for lax railway and environmental regulations in the aftermath of the derailment.

White House has pointed to a 2021 letter from the Republican senators to the Federal Railroad Administration urging the agency to expand the use of automated track inspection and pointed to a Republican study committee proposal to cut to government funding for to address chemical spills That's a weird way the pro proposal to cut to government funding.

I think it's just a typo there Additionally political report of the Trump administration rolled back several safety measures for railways including regular Safety audits and an Obama era rule that required faster brakes on trains carrying flammable materials Dude how about the fastest brakes?

it's containing flammable materials How about the fastest fucking brakes you can make?

But this that's a true thing though that this particular Rail that that thing happened on was not set up for transferring hazardous waste right or hazardous materials Isn't that true?

Think they're saying that that train was not set up for having that kind of stuff on it It's like bro.

It can just fall off the tracks going like 300 miles an hour and explode.

And you're gonna ruin everything forever all around it?

Oh, and now what are they going to do with it?

If you own a landfill, bro, You can put anything in there.

Ohio toxic train disaster leads to more concerns in other states while scientists say chemical tests in East Palestine are unusually high.

I mean, what happens to those people that can't move those people that are stuck there like they can't afford to move They got nowhere to go.

Yeah, at least it's gonna be really cheap to move them somewhere else like 550000 dollar houses everywhere, you

know Bro, I mean you got to get those people out of there.

Yeah Like how dangerous is it you think to be there right now?

Fuck man, you know how scary that would be if you were poor and you were stuck in that spot

dude a Plane that was headed with isn't it true?

a triple check, but I'm pretty sure they were environmental Yeah, and 5 environmental scientists who died in a plane crash were headed to East Palestine, Ohio It says false 5 employees of an environmental consulting firm died in a plane crash near Little Rock, Arkansas on Wednesday, but they were not traveling to East Palestine where a freight train derailed.

The employees were responding to an unrelated February 20th explosion at a metals plant in a Cleveland suburb more than 60 miles away.

So yeah, so the facts and the days since the February 22nd plane crash, Some Social Media Users Have Falsely Claimed the Aircraft was Transporting Environmental Scientists to East Palestine Where a Freight train derailment earlier in the month prompted officials to intentionally release and burn toxic vinyl chloride to avoid the danger of an uncontrolled blast Okay, so it wasn't true So there was a plane crash filled with scientists, but they were going to a different spill

that seems a little fishy Why are 5 environmental scientists going to some other thing?

Nobody's heard of when there's this massive tragedy 60 minutes away, and that's probably the closest major Well, I guess Pittsburgh is a more major airport.

would have to it Well, first of all, we didn't know these scientists were going there right so we would have to assume They've already sent scientists to East Palestine.

they don't have to tell you that they're doing that right It's not like they make a press release like we're sending scientists to find out because then people want to know like what's the result?

Like if the results are unprintable like if the results are like whole oh my god like everyone's gonna die Like who knows what the results are

and we know that if it is unprintable, they're not gonna tell us anyway So if they say everything

if they sent 5 people to this other crash How many they said

How many they send these pals and They want to like check for sure.

They want to like double and triple check on this 1 because this is a doozy.

People are calling it like an American Chernobyl.

It's wild that those things happen all the time.

We Googled it the other day, there's like a thousand derailments a year.

Brigham sent me a meme that was like, if you wanna run a train properly, here's who


Speaker 0: The Joe Rogan experience.

Speaker 1: Did you see the guy in East Palestine that talks like Mickey Mouse now?

Speaker 2: Yeah I did. I was

Speaker 0: just swallowing a true brain.

Speaker 1: What's that?

Speaker 0: It's a nootropic. You wanna try it? Yeah. Dude was on my podcast once. A doctor and he came up with this stuff.

Really?

Speaker 2: Is it orange flavor? He was

Speaker 0: a doctor. Was he a doctor? I don't want to give anybody extra titles. You want to try 1? Want to get smarter?

Speaker 1: No, no, no. I don't want to.

Speaker 2: Stay where you're at?

Speaker 0: Yeah. Doesn't make you smarter. Helps your memory a little bit. It's good for verbal memory. Sometimes the Mary Jane fucks with the mind.

Speaker 2: Ooh, that's delicious.

Speaker 0: It's good, right? It's a nice little liquid. Little shot. I like it. It's

Speaker 2: like a snow cone.

Speaker 3: With the voice thing, Wouldn't there be multiple videos of multiple people with that?

Speaker 0: It could be his own reaction to it. He got a very high dose. It could be there's more people. They're not talking about it.

Speaker 3: It says there's more people.

Speaker 0: More people?

Speaker 3: That's what this article says. They're going to go check door to door.

Speaker 1: Oh, they're sending the CDC in.

Speaker 0: Bro, this is very scary stuff. Yeah. Very scary stuff.

Speaker 1: Youngstown's 20 minutes from there. And they just call it East Palestine. They don't say it's 45 minutes away from Pittsburgh or 45 minutes away from Cleveland They just call it East Palestine.

Speaker 0: So it's getting into Youngstown too. Oh, yeah, it's getting in everywhere, right?

Speaker 3: It's really close. Yep. Columbus is not far away.

Speaker 0: That's so scary. Did you see the dead deer that they've been finding? This dude took video. He was down by the river or this Creek or whatever it is It's just fucking completely polluted, you know, he's for rocks in it You see big oil slicks

Speaker 1: and

Speaker 0: bowl up and he found 3 dead deer like really close to each

Speaker 3: other It is on the map.

Speaker 0: There's East Palestine Towns right there, dude. Oh my god, Pittsburgh's right there

Speaker 2: are those videos of it raining in Ohio where it was like foam. Is that fake?

Speaker 3: I don't know. Do you see that snow and all the stuff in the ground?

Speaker 2: It's like foaming rain

Speaker 0: Bro, what's in those clouds?

Speaker 1: And that's And that's a cloudy place. They literally have the lake effect there so the precipitation That's where it's always

Speaker 0: great cloudy always. Oh my god once it's sitting above you Yeah, is it does it dissipate? What happens to the this the poison that gets into the

Speaker 2: air. Goes to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 0: Yeah, where does it go? Like if it really hovers over you, like holy shit and comes down when it rains. What the fuck?

Speaker 2: The video that, I don't know if it's real, it showed a man outside and when it was raining it just seemed like it was suds. And so that's not normal. I don't know if it's a real video, it's TikTok, but...

Speaker 0: Wouldn't you think that whatever the smoke is, like, whatever the particles are, they would be too heavy to just sit in the clouds? Wouldn't you think that they would fall to the ground? I don't know. We're Too stupid to talk about this. What would you, Jamie, you're smarter than us.

What do you think would happen if chemicals were burned and they went into the clouds? Would they stay in the clouds?

Speaker 3: I think back to the movies of like, the Dirty Waters just came out, where they're looking into Chemical companies and people getting fucked up and there's giant lawsuits that go on forever Aaron Brockovich thing I think was a similar situation people get fucked up from some chemical company.

Speaker 0: Mm-hmm Right. I

Speaker 2: don't know. Why would this 1 be different? Honestly?

Speaker 0: No, I think it is I think but What I'm asking is do you think that when they burn the chemicals that they stay in the clouds, does that make any sense? I

Speaker 3: don't think they're going to tell us and explain it to us simple people. You know, some people might know.

Speaker 0: What a mad scramble. Did you, and did you see that people were trying to blame Trump Because of deregulation, but it turns out that whatever deregulation he passed wouldn't have applied to this and also wasn't instituted It never really went through

Speaker 1: They try to blame is

Speaker 0: that true make sure that's true What is the question Yes was D right was Was Trump-era deregulation responsible for the crash? Because I think it was not.

Speaker 3: I don't know that. Yeah, I heard that it was about the

Speaker 0: it was a wheel bearing

Speaker 3: for the company, not the not even the train. Oh, really? That's what I had understood. Oh, really? Regulation was about.

Speaker 0: Oh, really?

Speaker 3: Train was gonna happen anyway. Remember, we looked up there's like 1700 a year.

Speaker 0: So the deregulation was just basically like giving money to the corporations or Letting them pay less money.

Speaker 3: I that's I don't know I'm just so like first thing says Washington Post analysis so far Trump's rollback of regulations can't be blamed for the train wreck

Speaker 0: There you go, and that's Washington Post So if that's Washington Post see NTSB chair contradicts post that wrongly claimed Trump to blame for Ohio train wreck. But that's like a thing that people do immediately. Whenever there's something fucked up, they immediately point at Trump. He did it. He did it But when the problem like that is like when you say he did it a lot of people here Oh, he did it and then how many people hear the follow-up?

How many people here like no he didn't do it And this is actually what happened. I bet it's probably like 60 40 Right. Yeah, I've only 40% find out that it wasn't true.

Speaker 3: It's from article says bootage gauge Calls on Trump to back reversing deregulation and wake of age of train derailment. It's They're saying it comes from this letter

Speaker 0: Well, maybe he's correct. Let's let's read what he has to say like maybe both things could be true, right? What could be true is that the deregulation is bad? And what also could be true is that Trump wasn't responsible for this this particular crash both things could be true This is 1 thing he can do to express support for reversing the deregulation that happened on his watch. I heard him say he had nothing to do with it, even though it was in his administration.

So if he had nothing to do with it and they did it in his administration against his will. Maybe he can come out and say that he supports us moving in a different direction. That seems very reasonable, doesn't it? White House has blamed Republican lawmakers in the Trump administration for lax railway and environmental regulations in the aftermath of the derailment. White House has pointed to a 2021 letter from the Republican senators to the Federal Railroad Administration urging the agency to expand the use of automated track inspection and pointed to a Republican study committee proposal to cut to government funding for to address chemical spills That's a weird way the pro proposal to cut to government funding.

I think it's just a typo there Additionally political report of the Trump administration rolled back several safety measures for railways including regular Safety audits and an Obama era rule that required faster brakes on trains carrying flammable materials Dude how about the fastest brakes?

Speaker 2: Yeah,

Speaker 0: it's containing flammable materials How about the fastest fucking brakes you can make? But this that's a true thing though that this particular Rail that that thing happened on was not set up for transferring hazardous waste right or hazardous materials Isn't that true? I? Think they're saying that that train was not set up for having that kind of stuff on it It's like bro. It can just fall off the tracks going like 300 miles an hour and explode.

Like what do you got in there? And you're gonna ruin everything forever all around it? Like how long before they clean that up?

Speaker 3: Oh, and now what are they going to do with it? What are they going

Speaker 0: to do with the stuff?

Speaker 3: What are they doing with it? They're putting it in a landfill.

Speaker 0: In Indiana, right? Putnam County landfill. Great. Terrific.

Speaker 1: Put it in the air.

Speaker 3: Driving it across the state.

Speaker 0: If you own a landfill, bro, You can put anything in there. Computers, bodies, all kinds of shit. Old cocaine, like dressers.

Speaker 3: 4 hours ago story.

Speaker 0: Ohio toxic train disaster leads to more concerns in other states while scientists say chemical tests in East Palestine are unusually high. I mean, look at that. Unusually high. Really? What a crazy statement.

Unusually high. How about toxic for humans? I mean, what happens to those people that can't move those people that are stuck there like they can't afford to move They got nowhere to go.

Speaker 1: That's everybody there by the way

Speaker 2: Yeah, at least it's gonna be really cheap to move them somewhere else like 550000 dollar houses everywhere, you

Speaker 0: know Bro, I mean you got to get those people out of there. Yeah Like how dangerous is it you think to be there right now? Is it just groundwater or is it air? Is it everything? Fuck man, you know how scary that would be if you were poor and you were stuck in that spot

Speaker 3: Was that plane crash real that happened?

Speaker 0: Oh, yeah. Yeah, you know that's about that story.

Speaker 2: What happened,

Speaker 0: dude a Plane that was headed with isn't it true?

Speaker 3: Yeah On

Speaker 0: a triple check, but I'm pretty sure they were environmental Yeah, and 5 environmental scientists who died in a plane crash were headed to East Palestine, Ohio It says false 5 employees of an environmental consulting firm died in a plane crash near Little Rock, Arkansas on Wednesday, but they were not traveling to East Palestine where a freight train derailed. The employees were responding to an unrelated February 20th explosion at a metals plant in a Cleveland suburb more than 60 miles away. Okay, so it wasn't true. So yeah, so the facts and the days since the February 22nd plane crash, Some Social Media Users Have Falsely Claimed the Aircraft was Transporting Environmental Scientists to East Palestine Where a Freight train derailment earlier in the month prompted officials to intentionally release and burn toxic vinyl chloride to avoid the danger of an uncontrolled blast Okay, so it wasn't true So there was a plane crash filled with scientists, but they were going to a different spill

Speaker 1: that seems a little fishy Why are 5 environmental scientists going to some other thing? Nobody's heard of when there's this massive tragedy 60 minutes away, and that's probably the closest major Well, I guess Pittsburgh is a more major airport. That's closer. But well, we

Speaker 0: would have to it Well, first of all, we didn't know these scientists were going there right so we would have to assume They've already sent scientists to East Palestine.

Speaker 1: Yeah,

Speaker 0: they don't have to tell you that they're doing that right It's not like they make a press release like we're sending scientists to find out because then people want to know like what's the result? Like if the results are unprintable like if the results are like whole oh my god like everyone's gonna die Like who knows what the results are

Speaker 1: and we know that if it is unprintable, they're not gonna tell us anyway So if they say everything

Speaker 0: if they sent 5 people to this other crash How many they said

Speaker 2: 5000?

Speaker 0: How many they send these pals and They want to like check for sure. They want to like double and triple check on this 1 because this is a doozy. People are calling it like an American Chernobyl. It's like this is scary shit. It's wild that those things happen all the time.

We Googled it the other day, there's like a thousand derailments a year. They happen all the time. Bro, fuck.

Speaker 1: Brigham sent me a meme that was like, if you wanna run a train properly, here's who

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