Taken from JRE #2033 w/Matt Rife:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/74bgh9do4JLLPe0EugykAf?si=505ac3294a7f404e

The Jorogun Experience Are you a big ghost guy?

I, so, really weird side hobby of mine, I go ghost hunting.

Have you ever had like an absolute moment where you're like, oh my god, I'm in the presence of a poltergeist?

I've definitely witnessed things that I cannot for the life of me explain that have creeped me out.

I've seen things move that there's just no fucking way that they've moved.

I've gotten answers back on EVPs, but for me it is 1 of the things I do need to see it.

There's another channel called the overnight channel who are Equally as popular as Sam and Colby and they actually used to work together Then I believe they split off and to each do their own thing But that's who I started going with so I'm very familiar with those guys

so these kids They The Sam and Colby guys just went into the conjuring house

I was just there maybe a month and a half you

Okay, do you believe that there's something going on in that house the conjuring movies are fucking great

Yeah, they really did it right like you want to be smart They branched off with the nun they branched off with yeah

I love the way they tie in the story for each 1, to make it all 1 chronological story, it's genius.

I will say I wasn't as scared as I've been in a lot of places we've been.

There is some kind of solace to the house, but you get to know the history of it, and it does make sense that there'd be something here.

I mean, it's on some ley lines of water underground.

There's apparently bodies buried on the property in the walls of the property structures and stuff.

There's a lot of history that goes into it that just makes for kind of the perfect storm for some creepy shit.

But I didn't witness anything that was that insane.

Some items moved, some cars rolled off of the children's dressers a couple of times on cue.

And that's the 1 thing I do pride ourselves in these videos is so often we get absolutely nothing because we don't fake anything.

Like there's so many times we'll go to a place that is so notoriously haunted and we'll be there for 10 hours and get absolutely nothing and it sucks but that makes when something does happen that much more valuable.

What do you think, So do you think a ghost is like the soul of a person that's left behind?

Or do you think the ghost is almost like space and time because of a horrible incident, contain a memory?

And like that memory is almost like it shows up in current time sometimes.

I forget what his field of study is, but he had this theory about things and he believes that objects contain memories.

Yeah that things contain memories and this is 1 of the reasons why like people kind of universally support this idea that if someone was murdered in a house, you must tell the people, inform the people that are about to buy it.

You have to tell them, hey, somebody got murdered in this house.

Like maybe you don't want to buy this house.

Now does the, Maybe you should think about it.

Does the potential owner have to ask that information?

I think they should have to inform you because there's something about someone being murdered in a spot that freaks us out.

How you knew the conjured house was haunted, right?

So you go there with this feeling in this expectation.

That's what I always wonder about these things, like how much of how much of it this isn't just imagining things.

This is like the mind itself seems to have some unmeasured effect on the world.

I think the way you think has an unmeasured effect in terms of like this, there's energy that you put out, there's connections you make with people, they're very, very unmeasured.

And you don't manifest your own perception of things for sure.

Yeah, so what my concern is, is like, if you go into a place with a Pre-existing knowledge of ghosts like you think ghosts are here You think ghosts are real you have this thought in your mind that you you maybe experience a ghost in this place that's haunted.

You're at this elevated level of anticipation.

You're probably really nervous and kind of freaked out and your imagination starts firing up.

And I'm not even saying that these people are lying or that they're seeing things that aren't there.

I'm saying maybe you make things show up.

Maybe you experience some horrible energy that existed in this spot 50 years ago, 100 years ago.

That there's, like, ways you can tune into that.

I could see that being possible, But to me, that's what's so exciting about it is like you go hoping for those solidified answers You're hope you're going hoping to witness something that you couldn't have possibly made up

But you know why I think that too Is like you never see him in the daytime ghosts don't exist on the sometimes.

That's my point is like you're always trapped So you're always in this like weird space like if you had a wolf in your house, you'd be freaked out You want to get outside?

It's a fucking wolf in the house Yeah, anytime you're in a contained area.

Your brain has this heightened sense of Like being trapped in awareness.

I mean every horror movies the same when you got to get to the door get to the door, right?

Everybody's trying to fumble with the keys and the monster's chasing them and they get it just in time, right?

That is a reoccurring theme in the human mind.

If you're trapped in a fucking house with a killer or a ghost or a wolf,

You know where that makes the most sense?

We did the USS Hornet up in the Bay Area.

And we had the whole ship to ourselves, which I was so excited about, because I love military stuff, I love history, I was so excited to go there and just witness it.

And they sent me by myself on basically a game of hide and seek where I had to go find them in the ship somewhere after I had to count to 100 by myself.

It was the most terrifying place I've ever been because if you've never been in the bow of a ship, it's so unfamiliar.

Like doorways don't look the same, you know, you have to step over them and everything, there's so many pipes and everything sticking out.

It's such an unfamiliar environment, especially in the dark.

It's terrifying, you think, I can't possibly run away from something in here.

You don't know if that's a wall or a pipe or something peeping around to like look at you.

It's fucking terrifying because of exactly that.


Speaker 0: The Jorogun Experience Are you a big ghost guy?

Speaker 1: I believe it's possible.

Speaker 0: I'm obsessed. Are you? I, so, really weird side hobby of mine, I go ghost hunting. I've been like around the world. Wow.

Yeah, it's incredible. What have you experienced?

Speaker 1: Have you ever had like an absolute moment where you're like, oh my god, I'm in the presence of a poltergeist?

Speaker 0: Not still not a thousand percent. I've definitely witnessed things that I cannot for the life of me explain that have creeped me out. The timing has been impeccable. I've seen things move that there's just no fucking way that they've moved. I've gotten answers back on EVPs, but for me it is 1 of the things I do need to see it.

Speaker 1: Isn't the EVP like a radio though? No, EVP is just a recorder. It's a recorder. What is that radio thing? I'm sorry.

What is the 1 where they listen?

Speaker 0: There's a bunch of different names.

Speaker 1: My daughter's heavily into this shit.

Speaker 0: What does she watch?

Speaker 1: Sam and Colby.

Speaker 0: You had them on, right? Yes. Great guys. So I met these other guys. There's another channel called the overnight channel who are Equally as popular as Sam and Colby and they actually used to work together Then I believe they split off and to each do their own thing But that's who I started going with so I'm very familiar with those guys

Speaker 1: so these kids They The Sam and Colby guys just went into the conjuring house

Speaker 0: I was just there maybe a month and a half you

Speaker 1: went into the conjuring house

Speaker 0: by myself Joe

Speaker 1: Okay, do you believe that there's something going on in that house the conjuring movies are fucking great

Speaker 0: It's my favorite franchise.

Speaker 1: They're fun. There's so many of them. Yeah, they really did it right like you want to be smart They branched off with the nun they branched off with yeah

Speaker 0: I love the way they tie in the story for each 1, to make it all 1 chronological story, it's genius. Yeah. I will say I wasn't as scared as I've been in a lot of places we've been. There is some kind of solace to the house, but you get to know the history of it, and it does make sense that there'd be something here. I mean, it's on some ley lines of water underground.

There was war spot there. There's apparently bodies buried on the property in the walls of the property structures and stuff. There's a lot of history that goes into it that just makes for kind of the perfect storm for some creepy shit. But I didn't witness anything that was that insane. Some items moved, some cars rolled off of the children's dressers a couple of times on cue.

And that's the 1 thing I do pride ourselves in these videos is so often we get absolutely nothing because we don't fake anything. So you only get to see the highlights. Like there's so many times we'll go to a place that is so notoriously haunted and we'll be there for 10 hours and get absolutely nothing and it sucks but that makes when something does happen that much more valuable. It's so much more impressive.

Speaker 1: What do you think, So do you think a ghost is like the soul of a person that's left behind? Or do you think the ghost is almost like space and time because of a horrible incident, contain a memory? And like that memory is almost like it shows up in current time sometimes. There's a guy named Rupert Sheldrake. I forget what his field of study is, but he had this theory about things and he believes that objects contain memories.

Speaker 0: Oh interesting.

Speaker 1: It's not he's not the only 1

Speaker 0: that has this.

Speaker 1: Inanimate objects? Yeah that things contain memories and this is 1 of the reasons why like people kind of universally support this idea that if someone was murdered in a house, you must tell the people, inform the people that are about to buy it. You have to tell them, hey, somebody got murdered in this house. Like maybe you don't want to buy this house. Now does the, Maybe you should think about it.

Speaker 0: Does the potential owner have to ask that information?

Speaker 1: It's a good question.

Speaker 0: I'd want to know.

Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's a good question. I think they should have to inform you because there's something about someone being murdered in a spot that freaks us out. And this is my question. How you knew the conjured house was haunted, right?

So you go there with this feeling in this expectation. That's what I always wonder about these things, like how much of how much of it this isn't just imagining things. This is like the mind itself seems to have some unmeasured effect on the world. Yeah. I think the way you think has an unmeasured effect in terms of like this, there's energy that you put out, there's connections you make with people, they're very, very unmeasured.

Speaker 0: And you don't manifest your own perception of things for sure.

Speaker 1: Yeah, so what my concern is, is like, if you go into a place with a Pre-existing knowledge of ghosts like you think ghosts are here You think ghosts are real you have this thought in your mind that you you maybe experience a ghost in this place that's haunted. You're at this elevated level of anticipation. You're probably really nervous and kind of freaked out and your imagination starts firing up. And I'm not even saying that these people are lying or that they're seeing things that aren't there. I'm saying maybe you make things show up.

Maybe you see memories. Maybe you experience some horrible energy that existed in this spot 50 years ago, 100 years ago. That there's, like, ways you can tune into that.

Speaker 0: I could see that being possible, But to me, that's what's so exciting about it is like you go hoping for those solidified answers You're hope you're going hoping to witness something that you couldn't have possibly made up

Speaker 1: But you know why I think that too Is like you never see him in the daytime ghosts don't exist on the sometimes. Yeah, but not outside.

Speaker 0: They're never outside That's a very

Speaker 1: good point. That's my point is like you're always trapped So you're always in this like weird space like if you had a wolf in your house, you'd be freaked out You want to get outside? Yeah, right. You don't a wolf in the fog. It's a fucking wolf in the house Yeah, anytime you're in a contained area.

Your brain has this heightened sense of Like being trapped in awareness. Yeah, and how do you escape? I mean every horror movies the same when you got to get to the door get to the door, right? Everybody's trying to fumble with the keys and the monster's chasing them and they get it just in time, right? That is a reoccurring theme in the human mind.

If you're trapped in a fucking house with a killer or a ghost or a wolf,

Speaker 0: it's scary. You know where that makes the most sense? We did the USS Hornet up in the Bay Area.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 0: And we had the whole ship to ourselves, which I was so excited about, because I love military stuff, I love history, I was so excited to go there and just witness it. And they sent me by myself on basically a game of hide and seek where I had to go find them in the ship somewhere after I had to count to 100 by myself. It was the most terrifying place I've ever been because if you've never been in the bow of a ship, it's so unfamiliar. Like doorways don't look the same, you know, you have to step over them and everything, there's so many pipes and everything sticking out. It's such an unfamiliar environment, especially in the dark.

It's terrifying, you think, I can't possibly run away from something in here. It's too, there's too many obstacles. You don't know if that's a wall or a pipe or something peeping around to like look at you. It's fucking terrifying because of exactly that. You feel so trapped.

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