Taken from JRE #2042 w/Joe List:
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The Jorogun Experience The real bad thing is obviously forest fires.

Forest fires, wildfires, when those things get going, like entire towns are blanketed with smoke for weeks.

I mean, I was in New York earlier this summer or spring, I think it was summer, and it was fucking wild.

The weird thing was it was like an orange color.

That was when the tinfoil hatters were talking about, like, there's a bunch of chemicals that were missing from some train.

There's some toxic chemicals that were missing.

Like, they're burning the toxic chemicals up in Canada!

No, I didn't, I missed, I don't get a lot of, like, good conspiracy theories.

The sky's orange for whatever reason who cares

well cuz the Sun is behind it this Sun and smoke So it makes orange the Sun is orange.

I've never seen forest fires that orange.

Yeah It's a it's what You're getting through the blue of the sky and all the that's what makes it look yellow.

but the That orange smoke show me some photos of what that looks like the the smoke that was in New York City Cuz it looks crazy Orange like like almost like Yeah, but you're you're like you're burning Cheetos,

but isn't the sunset is orange So the Sun setting and you got smoke and so it becomes orange II

May be but I don't think it was during sunset that this was happening

So what do you think like people ran down and threw chemicals in the fire?

No, I think it might be just the whatever the kind of wood that's burning What kind of you know what's getting burnt?

You ever see how many fucking trees are in Canada?

There's like Some amount of billion trees.

Yeah, that's not just the Sun That's unusual.

Whatever the fuck that is, that's very unusual for it to look like that.

So this is what it looks like as it blows in at 1130, 1230, 1, 115, 130, 145.

That's a dark orange at 2 p.m., so that's not like sunset.

I mean, I don't know why that smoke is orange But it's fucking weird, so that's when the conspiracy theories come in

Thousands of gallons mixed they're trying to poison us deep population Do

No, I don't believe it, but I don't know I mean, I don't know if something else burnt up there They're not telling us

people run in the country that are a problem.

it catches fire though, it'll be like so fucking orange

Just make a ditch next to the wood so the fire doesn't spread

That's not bad You know I love Canada And there's I think there's I looked it up 1 time because my father-in-law once said there was like he knows there must be 2000000000000 trees in the world what do you think the number is?

I think he went high, I believe it's less than that.

I'm gonna say it's like 400 billion trees.

But I also thought, fucking, that lady had a mustache.

Oh, maybe, I see, I knew he was off, but really he went low.

Wow, well maybe when he said it, it was that number.

Well, this is the thing, this is the crazy thing about this whole climate change Discussion and 1 of the things that people conveniently like to ignore.

This is the like 1 of the greenest periods in recorded history When you think like we're cutting down all the trees and there's less trees less green than ever before right no carbon dioxide is food for Plants right and there's more plants now than there there have been in the last like 20 plus years What is the when they say the greening of earth because of climate change Google that like what percentage more?

Green is the earth today than 50 years ago

is that probably cuz I'm there's more rain and shit or what more carbon dioxide all right?

but there's huge forest fires all these places like Greece that they didn't used to

yeah But that was man-made that's this is the other thing they keep talking about with all this climate change stuff yeah, there's definitely been forest fires But a shit ton of them are man-made a shit ton of them are accidents The 1 in Hawaii power lines fell over it's a lot of its bad maintenance the Hawaii ones definitely bad maintenance They didn't Chop down the dry grass near the power lines.

Especially in places you've got high winds, bury your fucking power lines.

The United States should take care of that too, by the way, right?

Like, you're supposed to go into these forests and take out all the dead wood.

Right, controlled burns and all that shit.

Yeah, but they have to take it out, they remove it.

And it's valuable, they can do stuff with that wood.

So they need to log the dead wood out of the forests, and they need, they're just like...

They were talking about that during the Trump administration and he was blaming some of the fires they were having in California on poor management of the forests.

And then I was like, that sounds like a ridiculous thing.

And I talked to a guy who actually works with wildlife biology and he's like, it's really critical to do.

Like if you don't do it, and then you have something comes in like the bark beetle and it kills like a giant percentage of the trees.

Carbon dioxide fertilization greening earth, so that study finds.

From a quarter to half of Earth's vegetated lands have showed significant greening over the last 35 years, largely due to the rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide according to a new study published in the Journal of Nature Climate Change in April of 25 April 25th rather international team of 32 offers in 24 institutions in 8 countries led the effort which involved using satellite data from NASA's moderate resolution imaging spectrometer, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's advanced very high resolution radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index or amount of leaf cover over the planet's vegetated regions.

The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in an area to 2 times the continental United States.

Because if they say that, then people go, well, wait, isn't that better?

Climate change is bad and you need to go electric.

Are you not scared of climate change and all the high temperatures and all that shit and the storms and the fires and all that business?

I'm always concerned about weather because it's unpredictable

and the thing about climate change Is there's for sure humans are affecting it To deny that seems crazy.

But also, it's never been stable, like ever in history.

The history of the Earth, it's always done this crazy shit.

And there's been massive ice ages where we weren't burning nothing.

And Then there's been like the dinosaur times where it was way fucking hotter And there's been times on earth where there was no ice in the polar caps And there's been times on earth where there's way more and half of North America was covered it over a mile of ice,

Yeah, maybe But that's the thing to be scared of

I feel like I hear a lot more concerned scientists about You know heat Yes,

right because that's the subject du jour.

That's the thing you worry about more than terrorism.

Right, but this isn't, I'm not talking like NBC, I'm talking like NASA, fucking Stephen Hawking.

I don't think he was on the climate change thing

attention much more to the whole universe.

but he was worried about it I think I heard him mention it somewhere or

concern like if the earth gets warmer it is a concern But if the earth gets cooler that's a concern too sure it's It's just like life on earth is like insanely unpredictable.

And they definitely need to figure out what kind of effect we're having on it, but they need to be like completely honest about what they know and what the data shows and what the problem is and how to fix it.

For sure there's a pollution problem, for sure.

Like the fact that we ignore what we're doing in the ocean is crazy.

It's like even if you're not concerned with climate change, it's like well, aren't you interested in making the air cleaner and the water?

I mean, shouldn't we be have a cleaner place to live?


Speaker 0: The Jorogun Experience The real bad thing is obviously forest fires. Forest fires, wildfires, when those things get going, like entire towns are blanketed with smoke for weeks.

Speaker 1: Yeah, it was crazy. I mean, I was in New York earlier this summer or spring, I think it was summer, and it was fucking wild. You couldn't see the buildings.

Speaker 0: The weird thing was it was like an orange color. Yeah. Everybody was speculating. What are they burning? That was when the tinfoil hatters were talking about, like, there's a bunch of chemicals that were missing from some train.

You know, do you know about that story? There's some toxic chemicals that were missing. Like, they're burning the toxic chemicals up in Canada!

Speaker 1: No, I didn't, I missed, I don't get a lot of, like, good conspiracy theories.

Speaker 0: How come? Baseball talks in your head.

Speaker 1: I'm all baseball. I'm Scorsese and baseball, baby. I like to live a nice, innocent life. Just cruising along.

Speaker 0: Good for you.

Speaker 1: Writing bits, watching sports.

Speaker 0: The sky's orange for whatever reason who cares

Speaker 1: well cuz the Sun is behind it this Sun and smoke So it makes orange the Sun is orange. I've colored

Speaker 0: Mmm.

Speaker 1: It's a big.

Speaker 0: I've never seen

Speaker 1: what's yellow Whatever.

Speaker 0: I've never seen forest fires that orange.

Speaker 1: The sun's not yellow. It's chicken

Speaker 0: It's white Bob

Speaker 1: Dylan's white.

Speaker 0: What is the Sun? Yeah. Yeah It's a it's what You're getting through the blue of the sky and all the that's what makes it look yellow.

Speaker 1: Well, whatever. That's another conspiracy theory,

Speaker 0: but the That orange smoke show me some photos of what that looks like the the smoke that was in New York City Cuz it looks crazy Orange like like almost like Yeah, but you're you're like you're burning Cheetos,

Speaker 1: but isn't the sunset is orange So the Sun setting and you got smoke and so it becomes orange II

Speaker 0: May be but I don't think it was during sunset that this was happening

Speaker 1: So what do you think like people ran down and threw chemicals in the fire?

Speaker 0: No, I think it might be just the whatever the kind of wood that's burning What kind of you know what's getting burnt? I don't know. I don't I haven't really have no idea

Speaker 1: all right

Speaker 0: You ever see how many fucking trees are in Canada?

Speaker 1: There's a lot of trees. There's like Some amount of billion trees.

Speaker 0: So this is 130 p.m. 145 p.m. 2 p.m. That's unusual, dude. Yeah, that's not just the Sun That's unusual.

Whatever the fuck that is, that's very unusual for it to look like that. Go to the last part of the frame, Jamie. So this is what it looks like as it blows in at 1130, 1230, 1, 115, 130, 145. Like right there. Stop at 2.

Speaker 1: Yeah, that's bad.

Speaker 0: That's not normal. No. That's a dark orange at 2 p.m., so that's not like sunset. It's weird. I mean, I don't know why that smoke is orange But it's fucking weird, so that's when the conspiracy theories come in

Speaker 1: right

Speaker 0: Thousands of gallons mixed they're trying to poison us deep population Do

Speaker 1: you believe it?

Speaker 0: No, I don't believe it, but I don't know I mean, I don't know if something else burnt up there They're not telling us

Speaker 1: about right.

Speaker 0: It's Canada

Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know

Speaker 0: trust them

Speaker 1: who Canadians

Speaker 0: I trust the people

Speaker 1: I like hockey I like Jim Carrey

Speaker 0: like the people people are awesome

Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the best

Speaker 0: people run in the country that are a problem.

Speaker 1: I don't really know Fucking let's do it

Speaker 0: It's all wood if

Speaker 1: it catches fire though, it'll be like so fucking orange

Speaker 0: Just make a ditch next to the wood so the fire doesn't spread

Speaker 1: That's not bad You know I love Canada And there's I think there's I looked it up 1 time because my father-in-law once said there was like he knows there must be 2000000000000 trees in the world what do you think the number is?

Speaker 0: In the whole world? Yeah.

Speaker 1: I think he went high, I believe it's less than that.

Speaker 0: I'm gonna say 1.7 trillion trees.

Speaker 1: I think it's like.

Speaker 0: It's a total guess.

Speaker 1: I think it's in the billions. I'm gonna say it's like 400 billion trees.

Speaker 0: I bet it's more than that.

Speaker 1: I think I remember. But I also thought, fucking, that lady had a mustache.

Speaker 0: So, you're both wrong.

Speaker 1: What is it? 3.04 trillion. Wow. It's more. Oh, maybe, I see, I knew he was off, but really he went low.

Speaker 0: Wow, well maybe when he said it, it was that number.

Speaker 1: I mean, this was like 3 years ago.

Speaker 0: Well, this is the thing, this is the crazy thing about this whole climate change Discussion and 1 of the things that people conveniently like to ignore. This is the like 1 of the greenest periods in recorded history When you think like we're cutting down all the trees and there's less trees less green than ever before right no carbon dioxide is food for Plants right and there's more plants now than there there have been in the last like 20 plus years What is the when they say the greening of earth because of climate change Google that like what percentage more? Green is the earth today than 50 years ago

Speaker 1: is that probably cuz I'm there's more rain and shit or what more carbon dioxide all right?

Speaker 0: Yeah, literally it's food for them,

Speaker 1: but there's huge forest fires all these places like Greece that they didn't used to

Speaker 0: yeah But that was man-made that's this is the other thing they keep talking about with all this climate change stuff yeah, there's definitely been forest fires But a shit ton of them are man-made a shit ton of them are accidents The 1 in Hawaii power lines fell over it's a lot of its bad maintenance the Hawaii ones definitely bad maintenance They didn't Chop down the dry grass near the power lines. They also need to bury power lines. That's fucking stupid. Especially in places you've got high winds, bury your fucking power lines. Like, look what happened.

The United States should take care of that too, by the way, right? And then there's also forest management. Like, you're supposed to go into these forests and take out all the dead wood.

Speaker 1: Right, controlled burns and all that shit.

Speaker 0: Yeah, but they have to take it out, they remove it. And it's valuable, they can do stuff with that wood.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 0: So they need to log the dead wood out of the forests, and they need, they're just like... They were talking about that during the Trump administration and he was blaming some of the fires they were having in California on poor management of the forests. And then I was like, that sounds like a ridiculous thing. And I talked to a guy who actually works with wildlife biology and he's like, it's really critical to do. Like that's why they do control burns.

That's why they do get rid of dead wood. Like if you don't do it, and then you have something comes in like the bark beetle and it kills like a giant percentage of the trees. Carbon dioxide fertilization greening earth, so that study finds. From a quarter to half of Earth's vegetated lands have showed significant greening over the last 35 years, largely due to the rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide according to a new study published in the Journal of Nature Climate Change in April of 25 April 25th rather international team of 32 offers in 24 institutions in 8 countries led the effort which involved using satellite data from NASA's moderate resolution imaging spectrometer, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's advanced very high resolution radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index or amount of leaf cover over the planet's vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in an area to 2 times the continental United States.

Speaker 1: Great.

Speaker 0: Yeah. They don't say that. Because if they say that, then people go, well, wait, isn't that better? Isn't that good? Shut up.

Climate change is bad and you need to go electric.

Speaker 1: Are you not scared of climate change and all the high temperatures and all that shit and the storms and the fires and all that business?

Speaker 0: I'm always concerned about weather because it's unpredictable

Speaker 1: right

Speaker 0: and the thing about climate change Is there's for sure humans are affecting it To deny that seems crazy. We're fucking burning fossil fuels. But also, it's never been stable, like ever in history. Right. The history of the Earth, it's always done this crazy shit.

And there's been massive ice ages where we weren't burning nothing. And Then there's been like the dinosaur times where it was way fucking hotter And there's been times on earth where there was no ice in the polar caps And there's been times on earth where there's way more and half of North America was covered it over a mile of ice,

Speaker 1: right? So we are

Speaker 0: right I'm scared of ice ages dude.

Speaker 1: No, we'll be fine.

Speaker 0: Yeah, maybe But that's the thing to be scared of

Speaker 1: really.

Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 1: I feel like I hear a lot more concerned scientists about You know heat Yes,

Speaker 0: right because that's the subject du jour. That's the thing you worry about more than terrorism.

Speaker 1: Right, but this isn't, I'm not talking like NBC, I'm talking like NASA, fucking Stephen Hawking. I know he's dead, but you know,

Speaker 0: I don't think he was on the climate change thing

Speaker 1: He was he's paying

Speaker 0: attention much more to the whole universe. I think

Speaker 1: but he was worried about it I think I heard him mention it somewhere or

Speaker 0: I hear him

Speaker 1: but you know I'm not a

Speaker 0: concern like if the earth gets warmer it is a concern But if the earth gets cooler that's a concern too sure it's It's just like life on earth is like insanely unpredictable. And they definitely need to figure out what kind of effect we're having on it, but they need to be like completely honest about what they know and what the data shows and what the problem is and how to fix it. For sure there's a pollution problem, for sure. Like the fact that we ignore what we're doing in the ocean is crazy.

Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I always thought. It's like even if you're not concerned with climate change, it's like well, aren't you interested in making the air cleaner and the water? I mean, shouldn't we be have a cleaner place to live?

Speaker 0: 100%. That should be everybody's concern, like to eliminate pollution.

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