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Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the JRE Review. Got a couple of legendary comedians on this week that we need to talk about. Bert Kreischer and his new movie, The machine, following up with the legendary Andrew Dice Clay. Joined as always, my co-host Todd. What's happening?

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Well,

you still haven't seen The Machine, have you? Not yet. Dude, you gotta watch The Machine.

I've had my kid for the last 3 days, settle down. I'm gonna go. You better go. I'm gonna support Comedy. You gotta go.

I'm going.

You gotta support it. There were quite a lot of people at the theater when I went. Good. Yeah. It was like an early showing, what was it, maybe...

Hmm, I think it went on a Saturday. So you know, that's a busy day anyway.

Big day. But uh... And it was probably rainy. It was.

I just don't feel like people are going to the movies anymore

No, not since the vid

the last time I went was Top Gun

2

Good also good move and that felt like that felt like

I had to watch it there totally worth it.

There you go I mean nailed it. I did finally see that 1. Still pretty damn cheesy. Pretty damn cheesy.

But it's kind of, you know, it's like, it was

gonna be.

Let me tell you about the machine though. It was fucking great. Now, obviously you could say, there's a bias. I'm a big fan of Burt. But I'm also a big fan of movies that are enjoyable, and I really didn't know.

I mean, he's not like an A-list actor per se, so I was like, I don't know if he could pull it off, of course, but that's different, right? Being a standup is different than nailing a movie.

Maybe, but standups know how to act, dude. Look at Eddie Murphy, I mean, come on, Beverly Hills Cop. Let's go.

Yeah, but you're saying that like every standup knows how to do it. Eddie Murphy was something very different.

No, you're right.

Think how, like Adam Sandler's been, he's a legend and he's been making, I would say, a pile of dogshit comedy movies.

He's hit or miss. I mean, Billy Madison's legend.

Yeah, the old ones were great, but.

But yeah, you're right. It's hit or miss. But I would say that I would I would think that most really good comics are gonna be good actors I would think.

Yeah but is the movie also gonna be good? I mean there were Just a lot of factors that I was like, I don't know if they could pull it off. Maybe I like some bits, maybe some bits would be over the top.

Okay, so what are you giving it? What are you giving it?

Dude, it was fucking brilliant. It's 1 of the best comedies I've seen in a good amount of time. Many many years.

9 out of 10, Siskel?

I don't really rate things that way, but yeah, I'll give it a I'll watch it again

Okay, you know better than Top Gun

2

Well for different reasons But there

was no boobs no boobies Bert was a little upset about that towards the end.

I wish there was some boobies.

No boobs.

Not gonna lie. But maybe it's not

the time. I loved how he was like, guys, I think we fucked up. We didn't throw any titties in there. Like Rodney Dangerfield style in the 80s. Like, let's throw some boobs in there.

And then didn't didn't his director or producer be like, no, dude, We don't do that anymore.

I love what he's talking about the kissing scene though He's like, yeah, I got to make out with this chick for like 3 days straight

Yeah, well, what's interesting is no spoiler, but when you see that scene, it's like I expected it to be Way different than it was too. It was like just like it

was supposed to be funny or it's just like a

small kiss The way he set it up. I just imagined it almost being like a love scene. Yeah, but it was just like a Welcome home. I love you scene. You know, it was anyway So many great points the the fucking comedy on it was just non-stop.

It was really yeah It was brilliant

even with all the Russian speaking

Dude

people like that just made it funny

even the like comedy action and it is really fucking good Hmm like they just nailed it cool. I mean it would just highly produced right, you know, they have money for it because they had some pretty elaborate scenes. Which was like, yeah, spot on. And then, What's his name? Mark Hamill?

Good old Luke Skywalker? Was brilliant. Their chemistry between the 2 of them is fantastic. Point is if you haven't seen it, get the fuck out there

watch it. Don't

be that guy.

Alright, well what do you got in your notes here with Mr. Kreischer? He's always a blessing to just hear.

Well, other than he came in his pants for kissing that girl.

Well, he said he needed some tape. He needed to do the old turnaround tuck up the old tattoo.

No, he said he needed a wardrobe change. He straight up had to do it. I love how honest he is. Even if it's like, you know, slightly weird, bless him. You've got to love that.

He's, he's just like never changed. What an absolute animal. And to think, I don't know how old he is now, he's got to be in his 40s.

Mid-40s? Kreischer's like 47, yeah. You think so? Okay. No, he is, because I was actually surprised.

I looked this up. So he's in his late 40s and I looked it up because he was talking about seeing the Iraq War the first time, which I remember in the 90s. I remember that when I was a kid. I'm like, dude, am I the same age as Kreischer? Because I'm almost 42, right?

Forty-one and a half. And so I looked him up and so he was, I want to say he was actually closer to 50. He's like 49 or 50. But Tom is, Saguiro's only 43. So Saguiro's like pretty much our age, which I did not realize.

I thought Saguiro was older. Huh.

Okay. Yeah. I knew he was a little bit younger. Anyway. I mean, look, there's a couple of things that's happened here.

So really, this movie is about Burt Kreischer, for sure. It's like a story of his life plus a fictional part at the end that they make into most of the movie. But it's like a recap, that's how they

did it. Of what actually happened.

Of like him, right? And they add some narrative. But this isn't the first movie that people have made about Berg Kreischer, because loosely based on him was Van Wilder, which was with- You told

me that.

Yeah. Ryan Reynolds. That's for real? Yeah. So basically, as far as I understand it, Rolling Stone magazine bought his story rights because he was just a legendary partier at Florida State.

Okay.

And then I think it was subcontracted or bought again by National Lampoon's and they're the ones that produced the movie that Ryan Reynolds was in. But yeah, that was supposed to be about him.

For all you young kids who haven't seen Van Wilder and have no idea what we're talking about. I mean, I watched that movie probably 50 times when I was in college.

It's so good.

It's so good. Yeah. All right. So I just looked this up. The Real Life Van Wilder.

This is from the New York Post, May 19th,

2014.

You said it was in Rolling Stone first though? I thought so, yeah. Anyways, well this is obviously a lot older. So it says, Bert Kreischer, who majored in partying during his 6 years in college. 6 years!

Love that. Is the source material for the

2002

fratcom National Lampoon's Van Wilder. There you go. Wow. Well dude, anything National Lampoon's made is amazing. They're 1 of my favorite magazines from back in the day.

Oh yeah, they were fun.

Have you seen the movie about the actual... So there's 2 movies about National Lampoon's, which was a magazine that started based off of a Harvard magazine called The Lampoon.

Right, and wasn't it a lot of SNL guys? Well, eventually. Before they got

to SNL,

it was like Chevy Chase, Belushi.

SNL basically stole all the guys that were part of National Lampoon and that kind of broke everybody up. Right. And then they did... So it was a magazine and then they were doing all their own comedy bits and then Lorne Michaels came along and noticed what was happening and he basically took everyone and paid him more I think. According to the movie poached him and because it was Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, you know Dan Aykroyd, a few others the guy that's in you know they they did Animal House was their first movie.

Right. Which was a smash hit.

Dude, it was so good.

The nerdy dude at the end, who doesn't really talk with the glasses, who's like walking into a wall when they do the parade. You remember that nerdy guy? He's the fucking founder of National Lampoons.

Oh no shit.

Yeah, and he ended up committing suicide in Hawaii after a Caddyshack bombed. Caddyshack was not a cult classic until years after it came out. It first came out and it fucking bombed and he went on he went on a frickin bender in Hawaii. They talk about it in the movie, so if you haven't seen it, we're getting a little off track.

No, no, but I have seen that.

There's 2 of them, though. There's like a remake of what actually happened with real actors, but there's 1 that came out before it that's actually like a documentary about the actual people.

Oh yeah I saw that 1. That one's better. I didn't see the...

The actual doc is better.

Okay.

And they talk about the suicide and everything else because I don't think they go into that with the with the other 1 with the Hollywood remake.

No they didn't.

Yeah. They didn't. But crazy story, dude. Those guys were freaking amazing.

That's kind of wild that Caddyshack wasn't a bigger hit early on. It's such a good movie.

Right off the bat.

Yeah. I mean, Bill Murray's character was off the hook in that

1. You gotta think about though, like a lot of cult classics are like that. That's true. You know, it takes a while before they really start taking off. Mm-hmm.

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And it might be 1 of those things too, like maybe in a sense, the comedy itself was so out there, it was like, sometimes these things are a little ahead of their time

and

it takes a minute for people to catch up.

They also talk about how they're the producers and the directors were kind of tried to take over a lot and Chevy and all these guys were just high as fuck on coke the entire time. And, uh, and during the production of it and the producers were really adamant about putting that stupid little gerbil in there, which is kind of cute and fun and whatever. But, and I, I'm, I'm spacing

the dude's name.

It was a, it was a groundhog. Yeah. That was not supposed to be in there, and it really pissed off the, I'm spacing again the guy's name who started National Lampoon, or 1 of the co-founders, but it pissed him off. He's like, I don't want this. This is too kiddish and silly and you know, it's going to ruin the movie.

I think having a little girlfriend there, whatever, either way, it's an amazing movie, but it didn't need to be in it.

No, the characters were like, really well made. They were completely out of their mind

But anyway that van wilder story is cool. I didn't realize it was based off of Bert Burt ski.

Yeah, that's a good movie I think that was the first time I saw Ryan Reynolds in anything and I was like this guy's fucking hilarious

I think that was his first movie.

Yeah, absolutely hilarious. He

crushed it. Write that down, write that down.

Yeah, write that down. It's so good too that Bert comes on, and again, this is another example of credit that Rogan never likes to take, because Burt said, you know, I love you more, you'll never love me as much as I love you, like that's just Burt being Burt. Rogan's like, shut the fuck up, dude. I love you the same, We're both good friends. But he would have never said that story on stage until he came on Rogan's podcast and said it, and Rogan just said, you have to start saying this.

That was like the 73rd Rogan podcast. Early, early, early, yeah. When they were still in the bedroom

and tears and you know What's nuts about that is it became a huge part of his act It always will be because it's such an unusual story people want to hear it forever And Now it's a fucking movie. I mean, it literally, that advice literally changed Burt's life.

Yeah. Well, right off the bat, they start talking about how your friends should be better than you. I love that. It's like, if you're not, what is it? The rising tide raises all boats, right?

Yeah. Well, definitely, they don't have to be better than you, you know? They just have to, they just have to fucking be really good friends that care about you, that want to bring you up as much as you want to bring yourself up and vice versa.

Absolutely. Like

that's what these guys all did. They all supported each other. Even Joe was like, yeah, I've been very fortunate, but I couldn't and wouldn't have wanted to do this journey without bringing my friends along. I mean, he's probably made what, like a dozen of his friends? Millionaires.

Super famous. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and he talks about it towards the end. Rogan was talking about how he's just not a jealous person, and jealousy is such a weird thing and at a very young age when he was jealous, when he was in the ring, you know, and kickboxing and doing karate or whatever else he was doing early on, Taekwondo, thank you, He would get really jealous of people and get pissed off and this and that and for whatever reason he learned very early at like 15, 16, 17 years old that this is not helping me and I should be Excited for these people and it really shows in his personality and that's why it drives me nuts when everyone not everyone But you know when when I tell people we do this podcast they go Oh Joe Rogan this and that and the other thing I'm like, have you ever listened to the guy?

You have no clue. This guy is such a selfless badass, I don't want to hear it.

I Really don't know many people that Have a lot of exposure to listening to Rogan that also talk shit about like his character and who he is. Maybe sometimes they pick some points politically, especially through COVID.

Well, minus the COVID stuff though, what are you gonna talk shit about?

Well, exactly. But some people have like now labeled him as like a certain way of ideology, so they're like getting suspicious. But I also notice in those people that they have really connected themselves hardcore with like 1 political ideology or another. So it's like when you do that, they're always looking for anyone that this well,

you're just not open-minded

It's not a good way of thinking

and Joe is so open-minded

Yeah It's not a good way of thinking and and the people that just kind of blow him off as like Oh, he's just you know that guy with the podcast that does the fighting and the comedy it's like okay but you know you've probably never even heard 1 podcast he's been on.

Yeah it's not even worth going there really those people are dumb. What about... So there's a few things I wrote down here. I wrote a lot down on this 1, but I loved how Bert's talking about how his energy is just too much sometimes for the Europeans, like they didn't even have a name for this unpredictable, explosive person. Like that's all they could do to explain him is that he's unpredictable, he's explosive, they don't know what he's gonna do.

There's really no slang talk in Russian. Yeah. And so...

He's just a wild animal.

So what was it, 1 of the ladies that's in the film hears this from you know her co-workers or whatever and she's like scared to do a scene with him because they told her he's unpredictable, explosive, you know just won't know what he's gonna do and it that's what makes him burn. That's why we love him and you know the same reason why he's in the front row at his own movie, cracking up, crying the entire time. And instead of doing red carpet at the first showing, he's like, fuck that, we're not doing red carpet. I'm gonna sit with the audience. I'm gonna fucking drink beer with them.

I'm gonna bong beer with them. I'm gonna eat popcorn with them. We're gonna hug it out. Who else does

that, man?

Love that guy.

They, you know, It's very Hollywood to be like, you got to show up late, make a big entrance, you know, look cool. Everyone's already been there. But just immediately was like, no, this is like my 1 time. Maybe. May I'm sure he'll get more movies, but this is his big moment for him to get that early.

They were ax throwing. They had an ax throwing set up at the red carpet. And you know he got hammered. His shirt came off probably 50 times. I also love all the videos on his Instagram right now Where he is just going to watch that movie randomly at loads of different places Yes, and just hanging out with the crowd and watching good for him, dude So that's the way to really fucking do it.

Well, he's did say he bumped into Edward Norton, right? So I saw I saw Edward Norton at least once in Santa Monica. He has a dope-ass Tesla And you know, he's quite a quiet guy. He's like really solid actor and you know, he's he's just different than bird

Yeah, and Well, he's a method

actor. Exactly. Yeah. So Bert meets him and he's fricking screaming and being a lunatic and yeah, he's just, he freaks people out. But how can you not love that?

I know. I mean, I get it.

Yeah. I get it. I'd party with him.

So what else do we got? Oh, the World War I story about the soldiers having a ceasefire. Do you remember them talking about that?

Yeah, Rogan's talked about that before. They had to go kill the wolves.

They had to keep fighting because the generals told them they had to fight but they you know the Germans were singing Silent Night with the American soldiers this is World War 1 not 2.

No but I think that was a different story.

No but they played soccer together?

Yeah yeah but there's so there was 2 major ceasefires The 1 they were talking about was Russia and Germany.

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And it wasn't Christmas Day. It was because there were so many wolves that they were basically Attacking troops. Oh, so they had to take a break. I don't remember that 1 shoot all the Shoot all the wolves and then there's another yeah, it was crazy, dude I mean, there's a reason we've wiped a lot of wolves out in all different parts of the world because they're frickin Cuz they'll eat you. Yeah.

What do you think Red Riding Hood came from? Don't go into the woods I mean that was a story to help kids stay safe But there's another famous story between the British and the Germans, where on Christmas Day, people started singing. And even though the words are different in Germany, everyone could tell what it was from the from the beat. Yeah. Silent night.

Yeah, you know, just kind of the cadence of it. And then I assume, and I've seen kind of like reenactments done of this in like different movies, they like to allude to it, cause it's a good story. They would come out of the trenches Or 1 of them did on the 1 side and then they just played soccer for

the day like it's awesome

That's kind of fucking beautiful, right? I mean, but also really sad because the next day they have to go back to just killing each other again

It's well or their generals are telling them that if they don't kill each other, I will kill you. Yeah. And these kids are

18.

So fucked, dude.

It's crazy. How about Huberman? I don't remember Huberman saying that nicotine is actually good for you. So it makes me feel good that I have a zin in my mouth right now.

There we go. Well, it's a bit

of a nootropic. You remember that? So just nicotine's okay for you? I thought it still, like, shrank your, you know, gave you high blood pressure and made your, gosh, what can I think of it?

Well, it's a bit of a stimulant, so yeah, like caffeine. It's probably revving you up a little bit. You know, if you

don't give you high blood pressure.

I don't think so Okay, I mean maybe but if you were gonna saying hey, it keeps you stimulated and it's a bit of a nootropic, I mean, it's just been tied to tobacco for so long that they almost can't undo the studies with it. Because it's always an issue that when you're seeking out nicotine you might end up smoking which is not great

for you. We know that's bad. I wish it was good for you.

Yeah maybe they can make supplement cigarettes in the future. Just vitamins minerals make you stronger. As long as they're vitamins. You can fly. I, I,

it was interesting to hear about Bert's dad. And we talked about this earlier before the show about the age and age of Bert. And it kind of confused me because he was talking about the Iraq war and how he didn't understand war. He must have been what, maybe 15 or something. And his dad's telling him he's an idiot for saying that the Iraq war's stupid, and he like sends him to his room.

You know, Bert freaks out. He's like, why am I an idiot? What the hell, what's going on? And then his dad brings him back down and Burt's trying to figure out why am I an idiot dad like what what's up with this war he's like no you don't understand this wars on TV this is awesome This is like we're able to watch war now. This is cool.

We're gonna watch it together. That was a strange story

Yeah, I I remember I remember seeing a lot of that, you know, so that was the Gulf War, right? That was the first 1.

Yeah, it was 90s

and and at no point Even though it's like yeah, it clearly was like an action movie but I was not enjoying seeing that as a 10 year old

absolutely I'm

like this like we're I'm pretty sure watching people die and I and bombs go off I did not was horrible it's terrifying no I want to see that in movies I don't want to really see that in real life. That's a bit much a bit much And interestingly enough they don't I mean we don't see a lot of footage of the Ukraine stuff going on. I mean, you can kind of see it online, but the news isn't really playing a lot. Of course not. I mean, are they, is like the days of putting war on the news Not a thing now?

No, it's not. But there's that site that Rogan talks about

a lot, that you can watch cell phone footage of people at war. That's wild. Yeah, that's a bit depressing. I don't recommend it.

Can't do

it. No. No. Let's just not even get near that, please. Alright, what else we got?

I don't know. Drinking out of your shoes might be good for your gut biome.

I don't think it is. Didn't Bert get an infection? Yeah. Yeah. Clearly you're gonna get a throat infection from that 1.

Honestly, the biggest thing that I got out of this 1, I love listening to Burt. He cracks me up. He's just such a happy, fun guy. He clearly is extremely grateful for Joe and his friendships. And really that first thing they talked about, they kind of brought it back at the end, just talking about how jealousy is such a horrible thing to have and how, and you know, we'll get into this with the Dice Clay talk, how comics back in the day were jealous of each other and they'd try to, they'd try to, you know, one-up each other and really fuck people up.

Like the guy came on when Dice first came on to the Dangerfield special, the comic special for his first outing, there was that other famous guy who'd already been on the special before who wore a leather jacket on purpose. That's the kind of stuff's not happening anymore. No. Yeah,

jealousy doesn't serve you very well.

But I think Rogan has so much to do with that. I mean, like you said earlier, he has brought in all of his comic buddies, and now they're all making millions of dollars. And they're all sharing each other's happiness, and they're on each other's podcasts. It's great to see. It's the go-giver mentality.

It really is well let's jump over to Dice because we're pretty much...

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There with that story anyway. I mean look, Dice has been around since the beginning. Not the beginning, but like he started before... 89. Yeah, Rogan was...

No, oh 89? 89 is when he, well let's see, I have it in my notes. When he went on the special, his first outing, his first, you know, show was on the Dangerfield special, which was a weekly special, I don't know what station that was on, whether it was ABC or whatever, the Young Comics it was called. I'm pretty sure that was

1988.

Okay. Because Rogan has talked about it a lot where he and he talked about on this like listening to Dice in His car with his girlfriend and they were both cracking up, you know So he's obviously been a big inspiration for Rogan and many other comics. He was legendarily popular. I mean the the stadium tour that he said he went on like being able to sell out half a million tickets in a weekend that's that is almost unheard of today I would imagine it is. Well yeah

I mean if you look at Eddie Murphy, who was the biggest comic at that time, or right before him, he was selling out

7, 000

seat venues. Yeah. Dice was selling out

20, 000.

That's insane.

Seat venues.

Plus,

right? Yeah, and he, well, he took that ad out. That was 1 of my favorite parts of the show. He took an ad out in Variety magazine. This is back in the day when everyone read magazines.

He took out a full page ad. It said, Eddie and Pryor are great, but in 88 you'll be shouting dice. And then the show aired 2 days later, that Dangerfield special.

Wow, that's a smart move.

Well, I mean, it could have crushed him. It could have not worked at all if people hated him. But yeah, it was roll of the dice.

He had to do it. Roll of the dice. Yeah, he sounds like he has an ability to really build up his own confidence and belief in himself. Like, when MTV was firing him and he's like, trust me, I'm gonna be the biggest thing in the world. Like that, that takes some balls to say, right?

I mean.

Yeah, But it almost manifests itself if you if you believe that About yourself it works.

How the fuck can you believe that about yourself?

He knew he was good.

Yep

He knew he was good and it was just an act That's what kills me and it you know, you and I chatted about this last week about how it's a persona, right? Dice is a persona. It's not the real Andrew Dice. Clay, that's not how he acts.

He's not really super bro-dude.

He's a softie. He's sweet. He freaking cried on the podcast.

It was beautiful.

It was wonderful.

Yeah. Rogan even had to remind him, Hey, it's great that you did that I don't think that's weak. That's great

He he really just likes the to be the guy that did it first and he had so many firsts in his career, right?

Yeah, and also a lot you got to remember a lot of comics back then were characters, you know, in a way they played, they played a character on stage. I mean, look, Eddie Murphy was very much Eddie Murphy, but he was also wearing like Michael Jackson's leathers.

Yeah, Eddie Murphy Ross such a good such a good fucking show

There's so much of that kind of behavior But just standard

but there is no way Eddie Murphy who at the time was The most brilliant comic if not of all time. I think Eddie Murphy is the most brilliant comic of all time, in my mind. Other than maybe Chappelle, but I'm saying back then he was the biggest and the best. I think he was way better than Dice, and I love Andrew Dice Clay, but I'm just not you know at the time it was great but if you look back in my mind Dice is not as Evergreen as Eddie was like I can go back and listen to Eddie and still laugh my ass off I go back and listen to Dice. I'm like, yeah, dude, I heard that.

But there's no way Eddie Murphy would've done The Day The Laughter Died. There is no fucking way he would've gone and bombed on purpose to make an act. And Dice had this different, he just had this quality about him that just did not give a flying fuck. And that's what made him brilliant.

But really, that's not even a knock on Eddie because almost no 1 would do that.

No, but that's what I'm saying. And Eddie would-

No 1 would do that today. Rogan wouldn't do that.

But then you have all these other comics who are hating on Dice and he talks about it. He talks about how Leno was giving him shit, Carlin was giving him shit, and he'd get in their face and be like, you guys fucking suck, fuck you. Don't sit here and hate on me in the press and then when you see me in person pretend like, oh, I'm so sorry I did this. That actually surprised me. It didn't surprise me that Leno did it but it surprised me that Carlin would give him shit And he said it over and over how Eddie Murphy was the only person who was like dice Don't let those motherfuckers get you down.

I love you, dude. You're the man Well,

you know why because with Eddie and like probably how he figured it out was that Cosby was always on his case

Oh right, cause he wasn't clean

Yeah and he would be like, don't say this, don't say- like he had this right to talk to Eddie and supposedly Eddie called Prior and- Called Prior. Yeah and Prior was like basically just said something like you know tell him go fuck himself and have a Diet Coke or something like that the-

Oh said that about Cosby. Cosby

yeah he was basically prior was like be you do

we all know Cosby sucks now Well, but he was great at the time

Eddie's Eddie's ripped on him pretty Legendary but you know you I think you have to go through those types of things, you know, and in the same way Joe saw it clearly, he realized that, oh, wait, this kind of attitude is not helping me. This is not going to make me better and bringing these other people up. Like, It's such an unusually small community. How many headlining comedians are there? Like way less than there are surgeons.

Yeah. So they should stick together. And now what they look, so many of them have seen and learned this whole new generation is like, oh, we can all bring each other up. Rise together. And we all get better.

Yeah. It's not like there's only 5 tickets to be sold and you've got to sell them all. It's like everyone can sell them. Everyone can do good. And, you know, I think because Dice is a sweetheart He was probably always there, but it was it was painful for him to hear that I thought that push back and

I felt bad for him. I mean it just seemed like he spent an entire 10 years of his life just even more just getting hated on by all these people that he looked up to and were supposed to be kind of similar and to understand him as a comic, you would think these people, again, especially somebody like Carlin, Carlin wasn't clean. I mean, he wasn't dice, but he was saying fuck and shit and doing whatever he wanted.

I think it was just a really...

There was some jealousy there.

It was like Trained into them. It was cutthroat. There were just a few late night spots and those are the ones that turned into movies all those are the ones that turned into the big breaks and You know, they basically just had to hate on each other Because there were just so few avenues and And that's what it seems like it was. I'm just glad that comedy Isn't there anymore, you know, and now it's driven mostly through these clubs like Rogan's new club the comedy store There's camaraderie people stick together Yeah and you know occasionally people get weeded out if they're just not not holding like that integrity of Who they are, you know, if you get a few people Coming in that a new big comics that don't want to support others. They're just not gonna be in that group.

And good, I say.

Well, I think the coolest thing about Dice is that he always had a plan for himself. He always knew, at least according to what he's saying, it doesn't seem like he's a liar at all. He tells the truth about everything as far as I can tell. That's the beauty of most comics, right? It's like, you tell the truth.

And we should probably play the clip, actually.

We gotta clip. Let's

play the clip.

What is that? Number 1, I just think, you know, we've been so held back now. Like comedians, for the most part, are just being held back because comedians, as Lenny Bruce put it, and I don't even study comics, We're supposed to be a mirror of what's going on in the world and say things what's going on in a funny way That's all comedy supposed to be you know depending on hard how hard you want to get about it Well, that's up to the actual individual comic

Yeah,

But to put cuffs on comedians in 2023 is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.

Well, this is the time where it's, You know, it's important to make fun of things because things get real serious.

Yeah,

that shouldn't get that serious

Yeah, they do and It's always gonna be a problem for comedy, right? I don't think this is anything new, you know Lenny Bruce was just crushed and sued and you know, they were arresting

him for the things that he's saying.

Alright, we're not arresting comedians today, we're desperately trying, the people are desperately trying to cancel them, which is shocking.

Yeah, but look what happened to Chappelle. He's talking about his friend on stage and he's getting attacked because people don't even understand that he's He's not anti-semitic. He's not anti-trans, but people think he is because of 1 of his bits and he's actually talking about a friend of his.

Yeah, this isn't a corporate job, guys. Duh.

It's supposed to be funny. You're supposed to be talking about stuff that happens in mainstream media and in our lives, and you're supposed to make fun of it and make light of it.

I think that those people should just not watch comedy if you're gonna get upset at stuff like

this Yeah, don't watch it

or watch different comedians only watch clean ones But why should everyone behave the way that you

want again? Can we bring this back to Bill Cosby? He was clean. Look at him Yeah, He's a piece of shit. Mm-hmm.

So what is that? Where's that go? That guy sucks.

Yeah.

So yeah, but yeah, don't watch it. I mean, whatever. I was watching Eddie Murphy Raw at 12 years old with my father. He's like, don't tell your mom, we're watching Eddie Murphy tonight.

Oh, it was so good.

I remember sitting down and watching Eddie Murphy Raw for the first time and just.

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Reiterating those stories like what's a Goonie Goo Goo Gus? What the fuck is a Goonie Goo Goo Gus? I just thought it was the funniest thing and yeah, maybe I shouldn't have watched that at 12 That was probably a little young. Actually, I was probably like 10 So yeah too young to watch that. Maybe at the same time.

Look you're fine

I'm fine. Yeah, you

didn't grow up to be like a freaking psychopath. I don't think the effects of these things are Dude, my babysitter had me watch Chucky at like 8. That's way worse

way worse way worse violence violence

nightmares I was scared of dolls

Yeah, I mean I remember watching Friday the 13th at like 8 because my brother was

12

You know, of course his friends were watching it at 12 Scared the shit out of me Freaked me out,

but you know, I

thought about the boogeyman and all these things. It's like Listening to Eddie Murphy. I wasn't scared. I thought I just thought it was funny Even I didn't really understand it

pick up a few words and fuck that bit that he does with his ice cream,

I got my ice cream,

I mean, like a 10-year-old would crack up watching that. Even if you didn't get a lot of the other references He had so many bits in there that were perfect I want to talk a little bit though about the day the laughter died and The fact that Rick Rubin was involved in it now. Yeah what kind of special human being is he? To just like be around these like cultural moments in history that are so valuable. It's like he just shows up, he's a part of it, and he just feels his way through it and makes Helps people make

well, he understood it. He understood it. He he he understands Rick Rubin is a special kind of producer that understands talent, right? He knew that Dice was fucking with people and he thought it was hilarious because he's because Rick Rubin understands comedy. He just and then it's funny because it talks

about- You know, you can hear him laughing in the background.

I know.

Like when it's kind of dead, it's like he's laughing out loud.

Yeah. Well, he talks about it when he was on Rogan. He talked about how it was him and his buddy, I can't remember his buddy's name who was in there, I don't know if he was 1 of the producers as well, but he was in the back also laughing his ass off, and they were the only 2 laughing in the entire thing. And then the guy walks out and goes, you're about as funny as a glass of milk. And it's just dead, It's just dead.

That's such a fucking, like, 80s heckle, too.

Right, yeah, good 1, bud. Yeah, thanks.

Get the fuck out of here. Thanks, Grandpa. Cheers.

The best part is someone like Rick Geffen, who is an amazing record producer also, and, you know, started Geffen Records, was on, you know, what was it, Columbia before, then as head of Columbia, then started Geffen, you know has such an amazing list of some of the most talented people in the world on his you know resume and part of his the records that he put out he didn't even get it. Mitzi didn't get it. Mitzi was like, Andrew, what the fuck are you doing?

Yeah, you'll ruin your career.

You will ruin your career, and he's like, Mitzi, you don't understand. I'm doing this.

But it makes sense. I don't think many people could have. I think if Rogan had been there, maybe if Rogan was in the back, let's just say he was closer to Dice's age and they were tight and they came up together. If Rogan was back there, maybe if he saw Rick Rubin laughing, he'd be like, okay, there might be something here. But there's another part of him.

I don't think Rogan would encourage another 1 of his friends to make an hour plus that bombs when you're that big. But that's not a knock on anyone, because I don't think that almost anyone could see what it was in the moment. It wasn't until later that these comedians go back and watch it and they're like, Wow, we know how much of like an unusual risk that is, and we fucking like praise you for it.

Yeah, it's incredible. Because it's badass. It's incredible, and he was doing it on purpose. Yeah, that's the best part and no 1 knew he was doing it on purpose He was just fucking with people.

It would be so wild if Chappelle just decided to do it

Yeah, he'd kill it. That would be great. But you got to think too at that time Rick Rubin. This is 1989 I mean, I don't even think had Aerosmith come out with Run DMC yet. I don't know Everyone thought that was a dumb idea, and look at that, how that blew up.

I mean that basically brought hip-hop to the mainstream. And Rubin understood it. Rubin understood that the Beastie Boys were the fucking shit, and no 1 else thought they were. They're like, who are these 3 idiot white kids singing about girls and, you know, just idiotic stuff? And they're not rappers, they're white.

Nobody got it. And they're the biggest fucking, 1 of the biggest hip hop acts ever. Well, they were more punk rock. Right, because they

did the party, you know.

Yeah, but it was still hip hop. It was just a different kind of hip-hop. It was white boy hip-hop, which everyone was making fun of. And then what did that bring? Then you got Vanilla Ice, then obviously Eminem.

I mean, there's a few others, but like, it was kind of like Vanilla Ice was the next 1, and he had a one-hit Wonder, basically. But I mean, the Beastie Boys are timeless. 1 of the best bands of all time.

So good.

But Ruben saw that.

Yeah. The CD, Ill Communication is...

Yeah, it's the first 1.

It's beyond amazing.

Yeah, I remember going down to my brother's room every time he left the house. I was in third grade and I would go down and I would listen to the ill-communication tape and that was my introduction to hip-hop.

Fucking tapes.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah, just it was surprising to me to hear that Rick was there because I'm like I didn't you know He's a music guy obviously but he just came in for this thing and and like in a way seemed to have encouraged Dice to do this more than anything. And it wasn't, you know, it probably got him a shitload of press, he was still selling out arenas. I wonder how, you know, cause He did drop off, like let's be honest. He's not selling out arenas today.

He still does fine, I'm sure.

Well, he's doing videos on fucking YouTube.

Yeah, those are funny though. They're so funny. Yeah, they're very funny.

Because no 1 knows who he is anymore.

And he just pretends, like, hey, you want a picture with me?

Like so good though. How many hits are those actually getting like they're getting millions of views

Oh, yeah, people are watching that.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, it's it's very very funny stuff But yeah, I mean it's it's like eventually That kind of character did kind of die out somewhat I didn't know he did all that dancing, too You see some of those videos him and Rogan. He was like doing Elvis like Pretty good job. He was doing like Greece and all right Yeah, singing along to that and like he said that he enjoyed that more than stand-up like He was just a entertainer performer. I Mean,

he's so good. I mean that but again he's always been an entertainer and they bring it around at the end about how the producer of Entourage brought him back in he was on the last what was it episode of the last season I don't know who he played in there I don't remember that, but he's been on- Did

you watch that show?

I used to like Entourage, but I don't remember Dice being in Entourage, so when he talked about that, I felt stupid, because I was thinking, man, I've seen a lot of Entourage.

Well maybe you didn't watch the last season. Maybe not. I should see that show. I think I've just seen clips.

But I mean, clearly, he's always been an actor. I mean, he's just an act.

And he's a good actor, too. He's played some powerful, dramatic pieces in stuff, too. Which is, yeah, he's an unusual character, man. I mean, he's the real fucking deal. He's seen the highest highs, probably some real lows in there when there was a time, you know, that people were like, where's he?

You know what I mean? After, and that must be so different.

Or just hating

on him. Yeah,

or just hating

on him for no reason.

Just hating on him. Thinking he's a womanizer and a dick and-

And all that.

When really he's not. It's the persona of Dice. He's just an act.

We gotta leave comedians alone.

Just enact

Let them be

let them be

actors Thing that they can possibly do if you just leave them alone Do you really think with all the fucked up things in the world, all the bad influences, all the insider political trading, and you know, corporate nonsense, and governments fucking going to war with each other.

There you go.

What we have to worry about is stand-up comedians telling jokes that you don't like.

Amen, baby.

Please, God.

Let's go.

I think on that, we'll call it.

Love ya.

Getting preachy. Thanks, guys. We appreciate ya, as always. And go watch The Machine, motherfuckers.

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